question for EdZ and/or Jim

[Erik_K]

I have a question on the twist-away...sort of.

With most tour swings, there are always exceptions, they keep the clubhead outside of the hands.

Now, when I should I do the twist-away? After my hands get half-way back? Before? Does it matter? It seems like if I do it before, then the clubhead will be inside my hands.

Also, when I do the twist-away do you guys notice a slight increase in grip pressure? I think I asked about this before, but when I do the twist away, and this might be because it's a totally new move and sensation, I feel like I need to 'tighten' up.

 

[TheHeat]

The twist is a closing of the clubface. If you were going to twist-away at the very begining of the backswing, it would just be keeping the clubface looking at the ball, or in the more extreme version, looking at the ground.

At least for me, Brian taught to begin the backswing with the hands waggle, or an arching of the left wrist and a bending back of the right wrist. This gets the club to parallel to the ground, and the twist seems to flow naturally from there as the club comes up. I find that this actually helps keep the clubhead more outside the hands, and my swing more up and down instead of flat and then lifting as I used to do.

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

You're thinking too much as i once was, do this:

1) yank the club almost completely inside while rotating the club waaaay closed (twist-away)

2) just bend the right elbow to the top, don't worry about where you're hit with your hands or how much you've turned

3) now just go down into impact while holding the twist.

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I will say that if you REALLY try and arch that left wrist with the twist-away you will feel some tension.

 

[birdie_man]

When your shaft is parallel to the ground on the takeaway (with arched left and a right wrist that has bent straight back) should the toe of the club should point to the sky? Or more at the ball? (say 45 degrees in relation to the ground- where toe-up is 90 degrees).

 

[Erik_K]

quote:Originally posted by birdie_man

When your shaft is parallel to the ground on the takeaway (with arched left and a right wrist that has bent straight back) should the toe of the club should point to the sky? Or more at the ball? (say 45 degrees in relation to the ground- where toe-up is 90 degrees).

For most tour players, the toe is pointed straight up and down or maybe slightly closed.

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

quote:Originally posted by birdie_man

When your shaft is parallel to the ground on the takeaway (with arched left and a right wrist that has bent straight back) should the toe of the club should point to the sky? Or more at the ball? (say 45 degrees in relation to the ground- where toe-up is 90 degrees).

it honestly depends on what you do with your swing. If the face is staying closed, you are setting up more for a hitting angled hinge. If you open the face you are setting up more for horizontal hinging and swinging.

 

[EdZ]

Given a neutral grip, the 'twist' is a very slight but CONSTANT move, when properly combined with extensor action - this 'sets' the wedges and there will be no doubt about the feel of the flat left wrist. At least this is how I apply the 'twist' to my swing - extra insurance that the wedges are set with the extensor action, and a really solid feel of the tracing of the right forearm 'stump' along the plane line.

I would suggest the split grip drill to get the overall feel of not 'lifting and rolling', or coming inside to quickly, combined with 'just enough' twist and extensor action

I also like the feel/image that I am 'grabbing the rim of a wheel' with the thumb and forefinger of my right hand, with my palm 'facing the rim' - this helps the right wrist back to forearm motion

Work on the grip first though, because if it is off, you won't ever feel the 'set' of the wedges via the twist/extensor action