Brian, Can you help with a question on Dantes hip movement?When he says to bump the hips left does that mean left from the turned position which would be twards the ball or straight down the target line?it seems the only way to hit from the inside is bump twards the ball,but before i try to grove a particular move i would like a instructors thought on the correct move.thanks
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drewitgolf
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Dante taught swinging rather then hitting. The bump is 4-5 inches parallel to your plane line (straight down the target line). On plane right shoulder motion is possible only by tilting its axis (spine)without moving your head (see Hip turn 7-14).
Move your right hip back to your right heel, through to your left toes. This will give you crossline motion, which you can then back off and adjust to more down the line. Better to approach this from a 'too much across', to just right, than a 'not enough across' or 'outside/in' motion.
You will feel a dramatic difference in how your arms and hands swing through - there will be room for full extension from the inside.
You will feel a dramatic difference in how your arms and hands swing through - there will be room for full extension from the inside.
drewitgolf
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"On the downswing (and here is the critical point), the low end of the shank (the hips) is moved sharply to the LEFT. This causes an immediate and definite tilting of the crosspiece to the right-and that is what starts the shoulders, arms, and club moving down toward the ball." -Joe Dante
See figure 33 in his book for visual reference.
See figure 33 in his book for visual reference.
David Alford
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I'm submitting (amongst other swings), my swinging per the Dante model to EdZ. If this board had been more fair, everyone would be able to see a modern interpretation of it. Anyway, Ed will see it.
David Alford
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Well, you would have a clear and correct swing sequence of this model and I would have been glad to answer questions.
Dante didn't get the details correct, btw. Do exactly what he says in the book and you will have a screwed up swing.
Dante didn't get the details correct, btw. Do exactly what he says in the book and you will have a screwed up swing.
David Alford
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No, you were rude. Notice I didn't call you a dork, my friend. You have his book, right? Then, you can figure it out yourself.
David Alford
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Or ask holenone, Brian, Matthew, Msgjordan since they, quote, "know more about the golf swing than I ever will".
David Alford
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You can pay me because I have posted on "golf". One of my first posts in this forum was on golf, specifically on HK's analysis of Bobby Clampett's swing.
Earlier today I posted on why the left arm bends and on extension in the thread on Brian's swing.
True most of my time here is spent defending myself and countering silly attacks, because of the gang mentality here.
But at any rate, you're wrong because I have posted on golf subjects and I would post a heck of a lot more if you fellows would get out of attack mode. I don't attack people personally, but you call a "dork" and then turn around and demand a technical opinion from me?
FYI, I have given two (technical opinions) in personal email to the person who started this thread.
$5 please.
Earlier today I posted on why the left arm bends and on extension in the thread on Brian's swing.
True most of my time here is spent defending myself and countering silly attacks, because of the gang mentality here.
But at any rate, you're wrong because I have posted on golf subjects and I would post a heck of a lot more if you fellows would get out of attack mode. I don't attack people personally, but you call a "dork" and then turn around and demand a technical opinion from me?
FYI, I have given two (technical opinions) in personal email to the person who started this thread.
$5 please.
First of all I didn't "Demand" anything. Reread the post. I asked you a question and made a suggestion. You tore down and critcized a Dante procedure that a subscriber had a question about. I suggested, not demanded, since this forum is about learning that you could substantiate your position. Far from a demand, wouldn't you say?
You couldn't! You can't build, only tear down! I won money, because your so predictable and vanilla. Don't hate me, because I'm not allowing you a free ride.
I come here to learn from people. I know my place. I hope to improve my game from capturing info from, qualified sources.
Since you have come to the forefront the quality of information has been diluted, because you distract the Brians, Holenone, etc. etc.,that have much to contribute.
You, on the otherhand never really say anything, or explain anything. You just say everyone else, Dante, Kelly, Brian, TGM, Holenone, whoever is wrong, but never explain why. What could be a great topic and and instructional moment, turns into crap, thank you. Your like the Crap Midas. You touch it, it turns to Sh--!
I have decided to take my favorite site on the internet back. I am not going to let you hold it hostage! You exploit Brian's kindness and fairness. You linger here and compromise the site, but Brian takes the High road and pitys you, even has empathy for you and allows you to hang around. How do you thank him? You don't!
So, If you say something relevant to the posted topic, or for the first time in 250 posts, provide a benefit to the forum, I'll not intervene. If you continue your guerilla tactics to compromise this sights quality, I'll hold you accountable.
If Brian will put up with you, I guess you will have to put up with me? Sorry, Charlie! Five bucks, please!
You couldn't! You can't build, only tear down! I won money, because your so predictable and vanilla. Don't hate me, because I'm not allowing you a free ride.
I come here to learn from people. I know my place. I hope to improve my game from capturing info from, qualified sources.
Since you have come to the forefront the quality of information has been diluted, because you distract the Brians, Holenone, etc. etc.,that have much to contribute.
You, on the otherhand never really say anything, or explain anything. You just say everyone else, Dante, Kelly, Brian, TGM, Holenone, whoever is wrong, but never explain why. What could be a great topic and and instructional moment, turns into crap, thank you. Your like the Crap Midas. You touch it, it turns to Sh--!
I have decided to take my favorite site on the internet back. I am not going to let you hold it hostage! You exploit Brian's kindness and fairness. You linger here and compromise the site, but Brian takes the High road and pitys you, even has empathy for you and allows you to hang around. How do you thank him? You don't!
So, If you say something relevant to the posted topic, or for the first time in 250 posts, provide a benefit to the forum, I'll not intervene. If you continue your guerilla tactics to compromise this sights quality, I'll hold you accountable.
If Brian will put up with you, I guess you will have to put up with me? Sorry, Charlie! Five bucks, please!
drewitgolf
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David,
Care to elaborate?
David Alford
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Hey Corky, can you read? Read my post again. You owe me $5.
You can rant and rave all you want, I started into this forum with technical comments and got bushwacked ONLY because they showed EXACTLY why HK was in error in his analysis of Bobby Clampett's swing.
Go to the Swing Sequence forum if you think I haven't made technical comments and given explanations. Go to my posts yesterday regarding the technical reason why the left arm bends on the backswing in the Brian's swing topic.
You also didn't address the fact I gave courteous technical explanations on the topic of Dante in email to the person who started it. I would have given it here, except you basically demanded it after calling me a dork! You're not demanding it now? Hypocrite.
I know Dante's swing model inside and out, but you can forget my giving you one tibit. But no worries, in my absence, you can benefit from Brian's or holenolne's insight into this swing. I suggest you ask for a demonstration, however. Since TGM is The Truth and The Way, maybe you just need to find the correct Chapter and Verse.
Or -- go spend 15 yrs. pounding balls and dig it out of the dirt like I did, because once you get it you will enjoy the results. Guaranteed! On that note of optimism, enjoy your journey!
You can rant and rave all you want, I started into this forum with technical comments and got bushwacked ONLY because they showed EXACTLY why HK was in error in his analysis of Bobby Clampett's swing.
Go to the Swing Sequence forum if you think I haven't made technical comments and given explanations. Go to my posts yesterday regarding the technical reason why the left arm bends on the backswing in the Brian's swing topic.
You also didn't address the fact I gave courteous technical explanations on the topic of Dante in email to the person who started it. I would have given it here, except you basically demanded it after calling me a dork! You're not demanding it now? Hypocrite.
I know Dante's swing model inside and out, but you can forget my giving you one tibit. But no worries, in my absence, you can benefit from Brian's or holenolne's insight into this swing. I suggest you ask for a demonstration, however. Since TGM is The Truth and The Way, maybe you just need to find the correct Chapter and Verse.
Or -- go spend 15 yrs. pounding balls and dig it out of the dirt like I did, because once you get it you will enjoy the results. Guaranteed! On that note of optimism, enjoy your journey!
I can assure you, I don't lose sleep waiting for advice from you. You have already demonstrated that you have nothing to offer. You just like to berate others, because of your own deficiencies and jealousy. I'm logged into the "Brian Manzella Golf Forum" if you haven't noticed. So, of course I'm here to hear what they have to say.
If I wanted the level of information that you are capable of providing, I'd go to the most remote part of the amazon jungle and ask a native whose never seen a golf club, ball or course in his life and ask them. I'd be better off. Your a legend in your own mind! HA!Ha!Ha! I'm having second thoughts, I think I want you to stick around? Your hilarious!
If I wanted the level of information that you are capable of providing, I'd go to the most remote part of the amazon jungle and ask a native whose never seen a golf club, ball or course in his life and ask them. I'd be better off. Your a legend in your own mind! HA!Ha!Ha! I'm having second thoughts, I think I want you to stick around? Your hilarious!
David Alford
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Try this experiment, Corky. Drop the hatred and see if I don't drop my defensive replies.
The one person who treated me fairly (and about the only one), EdZ is the person who will see my swing at full speed or frame by frame. He'll also see the Dante swing. He's knowledgable and he's fair. If I'm a fakir, you'll know all the details.
Have a nice journey.
The one person who treated me fairly (and about the only one), EdZ is the person who will see my swing at full speed or frame by frame. He'll also see the Dante swing. He's knowledgable and he's fair. If I'm a fakir, you'll know all the details.
Have a nice journey.
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