Right arm STRETCHING the left arm in the swing ?

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bcoak

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it makes no sense to me, the images don't jive and I am here to learn from Brian and others about TGM. Your 'rim' statements/lessons/tips like the following 'EdZ' are why people haven;t improved in 50 years!
"the 'image' of the tip of the triangle staying on the inside of the rim, gives folks max width (same with the 'outside of the tire' image/drill) The 'image' of keeping the lead thumb in plane with the inside of the rim of the wheel, and on its surface, keeps max width, max extensor action.

That 'spoke' is the 'hub to wrist' line, so the angles created with the hands, the cock of the left, bend of the right, still stay in place, as I would think you would agree, are key. The 'feel' of the left thumb, and right 'thumb pocket' staying on the plane of the rim, of the right thumb 'pocket' being the 'extensor point' keeps the proper hand action through the shot. This 'point' is 'close' to PP1, it is the 'rotation point' (see my EdZ drill post, interlocked fingers drill, reference)"

rubbish
 

EdZ

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quote:Originally posted by bcoak

it makes no sense to me, the images don't jive and I am here to learn from Brian and others about TGM. Your 'rim' statements/lessons/tips like the following 'EdZ' are why people haven;t improved in 50 years!
"the 'image' of the tip of the triangle staying on the inside of the rim, gives folks max width (same with the 'outside of the tire' image/drill) The 'image' of keeping the lead thumb in plane with the inside of the rim of the wheel, and on its surface, keeps max width, max extensor action.

That 'spoke' is the 'hub to wrist' line, so the angles created with the hands, the cock of the left, bend of the right, still stay in place, as I would think you would agree, are key. The 'feel' of the left thumb, and right 'thumb pocket' staying on the plane of the rim, of the right thumb 'pocket' being the 'extensor point' keeps the proper hand action through the shot. This 'point' is 'close' to PP1, it is the 'rotation point' (see my EdZ drill post, interlocked fingers drill, reference)"

rubbish


ever consider you just aren't smart enough? :D

if you are going to call it rubbish, support your statement with facts and detail as to WHY you feel that way.

if you just don't like it because you don't get it, perhaps you should ask more questions......

Just a thought.....

As with most things, easier to 'show' in person
 

EdZ

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How mature and open minded of you.

don't understand it, so you hate it

hmmmm..... quite a lot of history is full of that kind of attitude

ignorance is bliss I suppose.... best of luck to you
 
Edz,
it's not that the idea is rubbish. It's your presentation that is rubbish. You mention the same things in most of your posts, and it's not a powerful concept. Yes, we know what you're talking about. But no, it's not what anybody's going to focus on to swing better. If you had to write a checklist of things to remember about your swing, then this idea should be read once and not thought of again. There are plenty of other things to teach about the swing. I dont' suppose you have any better ideas.

"ignorance is bliss" you say. I really think that you're writing about the same -very simple- concept, over and over, because of ignorance about the golf swing. Please stop!
 

EdZ

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Balance isn't a powerful concept? Supporting the swinging force isn't a powerful concept? Rock on a string isn't a powerful concept?

Hitting the ball with the 'back of the left shoulder' isn't a powerful concept?

Who is showing their ignorace?

I'll teach against anyone.

ANYONE
 

bcoak

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I understand it just fine Mr. Ego. It is an overly complicated depiction of the swing that could never be used in a practical situation. Move on Ed, I suggest you go back and re-read Brian's articles again as they do a VERY good job of explaining the swing in simple, easy to translate moves.
Also, you give Brian endless grief about him not revealing anything new - well your ideas are all old and, given the state of improvement in the game, obviously flawed in one way or another.
A definition of insanity is repeating the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. That is you Ed.
 

EdZ

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quote:Originally posted by bcoak

I understand it just fine Mr. Ego. It is an overly complicated depiction of the swing that could never be used in a practical situation. Move on Ed, I suggest you go back and re-read Brian's articles again as they do a VERY good job of explaining the swing in simple, easy to translate moves.
Also, you give Brian endless grief about him not revealing anything new - well your ideas are all old and, given the state of improvement in the game, obviously flawed in one way or another.
A definition of insanity is repeating the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. That is you Ed.


What's your deal dude? Just like being an a*&^$$%%?

What have YOU contributed to the conversation about the swing?

in one post you claim you don't understand, and now suddenly you do, after claiming you were done?

and all you can contribute is insults?

what a $#$@

Now, if you, or anyone else would like to discuss the golf swing, and WHY you feel what you do about about the things I post about the swing, go for it. That is why we are all here. If you don't like my posts, don't read them. If you don't like my ideas, don't use them.

Simple enough for you? Understand?
 

EdZ

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quote:Originally posted by wally888

Pleasssseee!
Back to original question. More answers.

bottom line - max width and a stable center makes the swing easier, gives you more power and is more accurate, with less effort.

extending the left arm, with the right, does all of those things for you, again, as long as 'center' is stable

width will always give you more than 'effort' - most people, if not nearly ALL people including many single digit players, put WAY too much 'effort' into their swings.

Trust the 'swing' of the club.

The 'swing' is indeed 'the thing' ;)

don't fight it, and you will understand effortless power.

getting that extention, with the right hand 'gently' pushing the left to its max, stable, width, is a key step in understanding the 'flow' of the swinging club.

Obey the swinging on plane force in balance [8D]
 

EdZ

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quote:Originally posted by brianman

I can read ed :)

A SMALLER pulley gives you more distance and I would debate, more accuracy too!

smaller pulley?

clarify please? Are you suggesting being 'narrow'?
 
Brian, I want to be sure I understand what you and Ed are debating when you advocate being narrow versus max width during the downswing. Do you mean that the closer your hands are to your body during the downswing, the less distance they actually have to move to bring the clubhead back to the ball (and thus, bringing the clubhead back at a much higher speed than the hands themselves are moving). In other words, extention of the arms does not mean extended away from the body. Or are you guys not even debating this (obviously, I'm confused because this seems like a no-brainer to me)?
 
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