Right Arm Swinging

[Tball88]

I'm beginning to believe this motion is one of the most under appreciated motions in TGM. My cousin played 1 year on the tour and played at San Diego St. in college. Playing and Speaking to him recently his motion is a strong left hand grip, almost an axe handle motion with an angled hinge, while driving the right elbow to his left hip pocket(pitch elbow). He absolutely kills the ball with a very consistent fade. Same for another guy I played with in Texas last week who plays on one of the amateur tours. Both are very right arm dominent and pivot hard while driving the right arm.

I'm just wondering how many tour pros are using a similar motion, since so many are right handed. I find it hard to believe all of those so called "swingers" are all pulling the clubhead when the majority are probably right arm dominent.

Any thoughts on this??

 

[Brian Manzella]

Yeah you right!

I have ZERO problem with it.

If you want to hit, hit. But, most people don't JUST HIT.

If you want to swing, swing, but lots of them hit too.

Angled hinge right arm swinging?

Why not!

 

[bts]

The right can pull, push or "pullsh".

 

[Tball88]

I guess the point I'm trying to get across is that I think most professional's are swinging, however, they are pulling with the right arm, not the left. It seems when I read about swinging people are always referring to right handed golfers pulling with the left arm, and I just don't think that's as common as most people seem to think.

 

[Brian Manzella]

The Shell Answer Man strikes again!

In about 1981 or 82, a famous sport medicine clinic did research to find out what SIDE of the body and what SIDE of the arms and hands that golfer used most.

They tested darn near everyone who could break 70 and you know what they found?

VERY, VERY near 50-50 on everyone.

 

[dbl]

Well, ahem, where does that leave us? Has HK presented idealized machines which nobody really performs like? Or are those good golfers using non-efficient tgm machines, which could improve by going to something more tgm-like? A third possibility is that their 50-50 motions ARE valid tgm procedures. Heck maybe they were all 4barrel'ers.

 

[Tball88]

Makes sense Brian that people are using both sides. I don't think HK was wrong, but I just think for some reason people interpret "swinging" as pulling with the left side. Just like baseball, tennis, or anything else, I think people use their dominent side, with assistance from the weaker side. I can't imagine a right hander person saying I'm going to pull the baseball bat with my left hand or playing tennis by pulling the racquet with their left hand, in both instances they either pull or push with the dominent(right) side.

I also don't think just because the right hand comes off the club at times, means your pulling with the left. Left shoulder is closer to the target, therefore left arm has longer reach.

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

Makes sense Brian that people are using both sides. I don't think HK was wrong, but I just think for some reason people interpret "swinging" as pulling with the left side. Just like baseball, tennis, or anything else, I think people use their dominent side, with assistance from the weaker side. I can't imagine a right hander person saying I'm going to pull the baseball bat with my left hand or playing tennis by pulling the racquet with their left hand, in both instances they either pull or push with the dominent(right) side.

I also don't think just because the right hand comes off the club at times, means your pulling with the left. Left shoulder is closer to the target, therefore left arm has longer reach.

TGM is all about "feels" imo. You teach the mechanics to develop feels.

I'm a pretty much just a swinger only and i don't CONSCIOUSLY use my right arm at all. I just bring that power assembly to end and i just accelerate with my pivot downplane to the ball with no CONSCIOUS effort by the right arm but it's obvious i am using it to some extent. But that's the "Feel" for swinging.

 

[Biffer]

What people can do and what people should do are often two different things.
To me, the golf swing is a rotary motion and the lead side of the body should be pulling, not the right side pushing. The main reason for the lead side to pull is to set up a smooth pulling acceleration, which works better than trying to make the trail side push the body around. The length of the club is the main factor in this scenario. If the club was only as long as a tennis racket, for example, the motion could be made with either the lead or trail side. So it only makes sense to use the lead side in golf for the longer golf club. However, it's still possible for the trail side to make a secondary contribution.