right shoulder down but over the top
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You may also want to experiment a bit/look at, your tilt at address. The lower the right shoulder vs. the left at address, the harder it is to come over the top (assuming your spine angle stays in place).
Easiest way to see this is to address the ball with your left hand/arm in line, and 'fit' your body to that line by allowing the right hand/shoulder to lower into place (see Mike Austin's tape, an excellent setup proceedure for most folks IMO)
My dad uses this routine and plays to a 3. Basically a variation on impact fix.
Once you understand impact, you can work back from there - how to best apply/support on plane force, in balance, with a pure swinging motion of the club.
Another great setup check is to hold a club against your chest so it hangs down along your sternum/belly button line, and tilt until the end hits your left thigh.
Easiest way to see this is to address the ball with your left hand/arm in line, and 'fit' your body to that line by allowing the right hand/shoulder to lower into place (see Mike Austin's tape, an excellent setup proceedure for most folks IMO)
My dad uses this routine and plays to a 3. Basically a variation on impact fix.
Once you understand impact, you can work back from there - how to best apply/support on plane force, in balance, with a pure swinging motion of the club.
Another great setup check is to hold a club against your chest so it hangs down along your sternum/belly button line, and tilt until the end hits your left thigh.
rwh
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Ed,
Are you advocating addressing the ball with that much axis tilt, or are you saying that should be the amount of tilt at Impact Fix? The reason I ask is that I just now checked a number of touring pros' address position on Redgoat's site and no one had this much tilt at address. However, they all had it at impact.
At impact.... impact fix. Once you see the 'lever' of the left arm/shouluder/club, and know that lag pressure, and lag are the goals of the true swinging force (because they give you the most efficient and supported force, with the most margin for error), you can see that to support impact, you must be - behind, under, and inside - the position of the left shoulder at impact, and post impact, the right shoulder replaces the left. Best to stay behind, under and inside the entire swing (which is why Hogan says that you can be under plane and get away with it, but "don't break the glass")
You have to understand the feel of the solid left side, and the right arm extension from the inside.
Split grip drills will really help you get this feel.
Never forget that everything you do in the swing is about impact/separation and supporting on plane force. Set up in the impact position, as routine, or as a drill, your choice - but if you don't fully understand the impact position and lag, you will never hit your best shots.
See the cover of Hogan's five lessons. Allow rotation and a true swinging, balanced, supported, force
You have to understand the feel of the solid left side, and the right arm extension from the inside.
Split grip drills will really help you get this feel.
Never forget that everything you do in the swing is about impact/separation and supporting on plane force. Set up in the impact position, as routine, or as a drill, your choice - but if you don't fully understand the impact position and lag, you will never hit your best shots.
See the cover of Hogan's five lessons. Allow rotation and a true swinging, balanced, supported, force
Edz, could you email me please?
cdog1955@aol.com
cdog1955@aol.com
Brian Manzella
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To get the SHOULDER to move down plane correctly....move the right forearm down correctly....down the turned shoulder(or elbow) plane!
so to clarify, you are saying the right elbow plane and the turned shoulder plane are parallel (and hence parallel to the shafts address plane)
in other words, the more you have everything moving on plane, or parallel planes, the better you can support the force, and the more efficient that force will be
in other words, the more you have everything moving on plane, or parallel planes, the better you can support the force, and the more efficient that force will be
Brian Manzella
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Not parellel planes....in fact NEVER parallel planes.
ONE Plane or two TOPS.....
ONE Plane or two TOPS.....
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