Right Wrist Cock Doesn't Really Exist

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DDL

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Actually, not to put too fine a point on this, but what rwh described are wrist conditions and actions, which is NOT hinging. Hinging in TGM is a left hand motion(with flat, level, vertical left wrist) through the impact interval, not caused by wrist rotation, but rather a rotating torso or orbiting arms. Cocking and uncocking, cupping and arching , and rolling and turning the wrists are not hinging motions. If you read this forum or the other 2 TGM forums, this is how the AIs define hinging.
 
Interesting DDL. Do you suppose they avoid the biological definition of hinging for a seperation of the different actions?
 

rwh

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In TGM, Hinging refers to the motion of the Flat Left Wrist through impact which causes the clubface to do one of three things: Close only ("Horizontal Hinging"); Lay-back only ("Vertical Hinging"); Close and Lay-back simultaneously ("Angled Hinging").

See Section 2-G in the book.
 

rwh

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quote:Originally posted by Ringer

Interesting DDL. Do you suppose they avoid the biological definition of hinging for a seperation of the different actions?

Hinge Action is associated with what the Flat Lead Wrist is doing to control what the Clubface is doing during the Impact interval.

Mr. Kelley's idea was to visualize a hinge mounted on the lead shoulder joint in such a way so as to permit the Lead Arm and the Flat Lead Wrist to move in only one of three planes of motion: horizontal, vertical or angled. Since the shoulder is a ball and socket joint, his use of "hinge" is accurate as a concept, only. The idea works like this:

IF the shoulder had a Horizontal Hinge, the Lead Arm/Flat Lead Wrist would move horizontally, only, like a door closing. This produces a closing only action of the Clubface.

If the shoulder had a Vertical Hinge, the Lead Arm/Flat Lead Wrist would move vertically, only, like a pendulum, thereby producing a Lay-back, only, action of the Clubface.

If the shoulder had an Angled Hinge (e.g., a hinge mounted on the roof of a house), the Lead Arm/Flat Lead Wrist would simultaneously close and Lay-back, much like the action of a canoeist's paddle, thereby producing a simultaneous closing and Lay-back of the Clubface.

In practice, some people actually visualize a hinge in their shoulder, but I believe most just monitor the action of the Flat Left Wrist through the Impact Interval. There is a definite feel associated with each. It's really very easy once you get the hang of it.

This is a very basic explanation. If you're interested in a detailed, expert explanation, Yoda has posted extensively on the subject, including photos, on the Chuck Evans Forum and The Golfing Machine Forum.
 
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quote:Originally posted by Ringer

Interesting DDL. Do you suppose they avoid the biological definition of hinging for a seperation of the different actions?

Hinge Action is associated with what the Flat Lead Wrist is doing to control what the Clubface is doing during the Impact interval.

Mr. Kelley's idea was to visualize a hinge mounted on the lead shoulder joint in such a way so as to permit the Lead Arm and the Flat Lead Wrist to move in only one of three planes of motion: horizontal, vertical or angled. Since the shoulder is a ball and socket joint, his use of "hinge" is accurate as a concept, only. The idea works like this:

IF the shoulder had a Horizontal Hinge, the Lead Arm/Flat Lead Wrist would move horizontally, only, like a door closing. This produces a closing only action of the Clubface.

If the shoulder had a Vertical Hinge, the Lead Arm/Flat Lead Wrist would move vertically, only, like a pendulum, thereby producing a Lay-back, only, action of the Clubface.

If the shoulder had an Angled Hinge (e.g., a hinge mounted on the roof of a house), the Lead Arm/Flat Lead Wrist would simultaneously close and Lay-back, much like the action of a canoeist's paddle, thereby producing a simultaneous closing and Lay-back of the Clubface.

In practice, some people actually visualize a hinge in their shoulder, but I believe most just monitor the action of the Flat Left Wrist through the Impact Interval. There is a definite feel associated with each. It's really very easy once you get the hang of it.

This is a very basic explanation. If you're interested in a detailed, expert explanation, Yoda has posted extensively on the subject, including photos, on the Chuck Evans Forum and The Golfing Machine Forum.

Thank you very much for that rwh. Very well said and I understand you nearly completely. I will have to study this a bit more.
 

Mathew

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While this may take this thread off into another direction. I just wanted to make the point that I CAN cock my right wrist alot and still have a big deal of bend in the right wrist. You have to have more than just a flat left wrist to be assured of getting the level bent right wrist
 
Mathew.. That's what I have always thought. But it seems when I suggest at all that the right wrist cocks it's like a pack of wolves out for my soul. I do believe that the right wrist can bend as a reaction to where the forearm is placed, but does not always have to "ON THE BACKSWING".
 
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