Richard the Nerd
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Fair enough I was more thinking "propulsion" via the right forearm...
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Fair enough I was more thinking "propulsion" via the right forearm...
Brian Manzella
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drewyallop
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Is this consistent with the discussion in the AS2 video of the wrists being in ulnar flexion at impact? As I understand it this wrist condition is desirable, but could be wrong.
Dariusz J.
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Ulnar flexion ? Or do you mean rather ulnar deviation, i.e. downcocking ? I do not know the answer for you since I haven't seen the vid but just straightening out the nomenclature.
What I can say, however, is -- yes, UD is desirable approaching impact since it is "in biokinetic pair" with palmar flexion, same as RD (radial deviation) with dorsi flexion.
Can you present a similar study with Furyk as the protagonist ? Both Garcia and Quiros aren't best representatives for a full rear forearm support exactly because of this too early throw and too early swivel later on (their clubhead stops to remain square to the arc too early after impact).
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Kevin Shields
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Dariusz, what is Furyk's right arm supporting thru impact? Hopefully we don't take a giant step backward here.
Dariusz J.
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I mean Furyk's the best example of not letting his rear foream lose parallelness with the shaft and rear humerus being thrown out from the pivoting body until the very impact. Perfect synchronization, perfect pivot. One can go normal as hard as one can here without any danger of affecting the clubface.
Forget the word "support", I am accustomed to this word in this context despite it is not the luckiest one as discussed earlier in the thread.
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drewyallop
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Sorry D. I am unsure of the nomenclature but thE demonstration was releasing on the table top, shaft oN the table but hands below the table at impact. Thus an acute angle is formed between the forearm and the shaft. Does that explain it?
Sorry D. I am unsure of the nomenclature but thE demonstration was releasing on the table top, shaft oN the table but hands below the table at impact. Thus an acute angle is formed between the forearm and the shaft. Does that explain it?
Dariusz J.
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No probs, but I cannot visualize this. Hands below the table when the shaft lies on table ?
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I think we go back to the hardest thing to learn in golf: Grip
I think there is a way to have left wrist in full UD but not the right one.
What you think about it? And Dariusz also
I think the main reason is that most of the hackers got totally wrong idea how to use the club and how their hands and wrist should work. Then they try to find something that feels comfortable and fits to their swing, or should we even say "swing"
I think even quite low hcp players got big issue with grip just at this part, how to get the left wrist to UD at impact and right about neutral.
Damn... and thank You!! I just found the explanation for the mystery that has been confusing me a while... Hogans flat lies and full UD at left wrist. Last nail to double pendulums coffin
Brian Manzella
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There is no doubt that the best players have learned to grip it very differently in each hand.
I talked about it in my Ideas video.
Brian Manzella
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Last nail to double pendulums coffin
Tapio,
The double pendulum model can show plenty, but obviously not all.
Aaron Zick would win this argument with you very easily.
Michael Jacobs
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Last nail to double pendulums coffin
The Double Pendulum model can still have some useful features
I don't think so. I only need to say golf swing has more than two levers and there is no fixed hub. And I can prove it.
I didn't say it's useless and we can use it to understand something, but it's totally incomplete to understand how the forces are created and what all effects to the club.
I am not an expert but I used to see a PGA pro who taught me the right sided swing (reverse K, parallel chest at impact etc). IMHO this swing is completely different to what Brian teaches (but then I only know what he teaches from his videos [until Brian decides to go to the UK - HINT!!!]).
Apart form that I didn't really like the right sided swing, always felt too restrictive to me and I dropped 3 strokes the summer I've moved away from it.
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