Most of the greens on the course I play on have elevated greens in which either the green itself is up on a plateau, or it is slopping upwards from front to back , sometimes with a large ridge across it. When you find yourself short, with a 10 yard chip/pitch shot, what is the best technique to use to get the ball up to the pin. I try to have a forward lean of the shaft, take a divot in front of the ball, but on shots like these, I dont get much height to the pitch. Even with the Lob Wedge it still comes out too low. Any ideas? Thanks.