Strengthen left hand to stop hook?

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Ok, I know this goes against conventional wisdom in golf, but if there is one place for challenging "pop teachings" this is it.

I'm a hooker. No seriously, I can hook the ball like a madman, sharp snap hooks, with any club. I get below plane and that clubface turns over... fast.

I don't have strong hands and wrists, but after playing for 2 years and learning from reading 5 Lessons and a lot of other golf books, looking at a lot of swing sequences, taking a few odd lessons here and there (all of which made problems worse I might add), I developed my swing as it is today.

But enough background. In order to stop the hooks I've tried everything under the sun. Level shoulders, more left weight, weaker grip (my grip is basically Johnny Miller at this point), swing left, ...even played a round gripping the club like Jim Fuyrk. I still come out of the gate hitting snappers. It's a frustrating way to play golf. Oh, and the shanks have been a blast as well.

Four days ago I had an epiphany. Weaking my grip is not the solution. By weakening the grip so far, with my weak hands and wrists, I am inducing more and more flip into my swing (despite all my best efforts) simply because the left hand is stuck with no strength whatsoever. The grip changes made my problem WORSE, not better, and left me making compensation moves that were unneccessary. I was wearing holes in gloves like crazy, and blisters? Oh man, let me tell you, it's a constant painful struggle. The club began to feel really hard to swing. Very difficult to control. Long clubs felt entirely too heavy, too unwieldly. A constant arc was impossible.

So the epiphany was this. Do the opposite of what every says should be done to fix the hook. Strengthen the left hand back to an orthodox position (two to three knuckles, V at the right shoulder, left thumb more on the right side of the shaft) and leave the right hand in the Johnny Miller position. Give that left hand / wrist the strength it needs to swing the club, stay stable in the swing, and produce a consistent alignment at impact.

The result? Well, despite the fact the grip feels weird, the actual swing of the club is so much more stable it is scary. Driver swing speed is up to 100-105 (from being around 92). I still draw the ball (which is fine), but the ball flight pattern is consistent. When taking my grip, I simply sole the club at my side, grip it with the left hand, and check the V. No more weak grip for me. I just don't have the arm, hand, and wrist strength for it.

I guess the lesson is here that you have to find what works for you, your build, your strengths, your weaknesses, etc. Pop instruction simply sucks. Plain and simple. It's no wonder the best players in the history of the game were for the most part self taught.
 

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(I think that) the more you weakened your grip the more you subconsciously compensated for knowing that the face was open by stopping your pivot and flipping to close the face. Problem was that you couldn't time the flip effectively. With the more conventional left hand grip you no longer need to flip to close the face, so you are probably pivoting better/faster and swiveling the arms correctly. Sounds like you'd be a good candidate for NSA 2.0.
 
I've had the same experience with the left hand in that the right became very weak and I noticed one day that I actually didn't have much of the hand on the club. I was so weak that I was getting very little "finger's skin" (for want of a better term) on the grip. I then changed to having the first muscle pads on the side of the grip. It looked very strong compared to what I had been doing but suddenly I was in control of the club and if I tried a little cut...it cut. If I tried a big cut... it big cutted!

I think what we've arrived at here is that there's a difference between the grip changing the clubface according to where the hands are positioned and actually losing control of the clubface. A weak grip will only produce open alignments if you can control those alignments.

As for other hook cures I've arrived at recently, I'm just about to start a thread on kinetic chain vs losing angles/flipping. In a nutshell I've found that keeping a bit back and prolonging some of the components in the chain will, again, keep everything under control and stop the ball heading left.
 
I think everyone has their own particular "ideal" grip alignments. It doesn't always fit in with what's "right". It only has to be right for you and give you the magical clubface control

Have you seen Never Hook again?
 
I think everyone has their own particular "ideal" grip alignments. It doesn't always fit in with what's "right". It only has to be right for you and give you the magical clubface control

Have you seen Never Hook again?

For some particular reason, I used to pull/hook the ball but I went for NSA first. Then I downloaded NHA but did not really get the real message of the video.

Last night, something happened to my COCONUT that I need to slide my hips back on the upswing and go hot down the yella blick load... Whoa... good impact and down the line that the aim was on.

Sometimes what you think is right is not that.
 

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Let me start this by confessing that I have no clue to what I am talking about and that I am only trying to describe what I think I am doing :D

I play with an extremely strong grip, I address the ball with an open stance, and swing left as hard as I can. This is probably due to my patella tendon on my left knee. It has started giving me so much trouble that my stance and left foot are as extreme open as my grip is strong. When I first experimented with the above I hit the ball so bad it was unbearable to watch. Over time I figured out that the more I resisted the urge to release my arms and hands into the shot, and allowed a total "body/pivot" release, the better I hit the ball.

Think about the kind of release that is used on Brian’s chip and pitch shots. that is the only thing i can think of to describe it...

Now when I play golf I finally feel like I can actually free wheel my swing without feeling like my body is all mangled up in a knot!!! I prefer to play a very hot low sliding fade that "tumbles" down the fairway (and boy do I get that now), on the other hand, if the hole sets up for nothing but a straight/draw shot I can hit it from the same setup with just a HINT of hand action, and I do mean only a hint. I think all this has come about from learning to hit the ball with nothing but my body.

Please remember that I’m not saying that it is always picture perfect, but for the first time in my life I swing every club in my bag with the same action and same ball flight.

duane
 
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