Suggestions for Fixing Path/Face issues w/out Trackman?

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malone

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Problem: I can "read" my results: too much in-out...too much face closed to path = way too much right-to-left, especially with the Driver. No easy access to Trackman, etc. Suggestions?
 
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TheScotsman

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malone said:
Problem: I can "read" my results: too much in-out...too much face closed to path = way too much right-to-left, especially with the Driver. No easy access to Trackman, etc. Suggestions?
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I think you've answered this for yourself: decrease the in-out club head path angle... adjust the face angle until the ball stops hooking (more open)... ball back an inch or two... repeat until you get a feel for these angles.
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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If you have an old driver you don't care about, use it to hit drivers off the deck until you hit some nice shots. Then put it back on a tee and replicate the results. Finally, once you feel you're fixed go back towards a bit more in/out to regain distance.
 
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malone

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Brian: I thought when I posted that someone would recommend NHA. I have both COF and Never Hook Again 2.0, will re-visit NHA immediately, but confess to having trouble with "the carry."
 
dschultz6072

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Jim Kobylinski said:
If you have an old driver you don't care about, use it to hit drivers off the deck until you hit some nice shots. Then put it back on a tee and replicate the results. Finally, once you feel you're fixed go back towards a bit more in/out to regain distance.
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This helped me a lot. Except I care about my driver and the sole is now scratched to caca.
 
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malone said:
Problem: I can "read" my results: too much in-out...too much face closed to path = way too much right-to-left, especially with the Driver. No easy access to Trackman, etc. Suggestions?
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I feel for you, because you are in for a lot of trial and error and error and error before you can visualize D-plane results based on your swing and club feeel. Just keep plugging away until you can get results by elimination. That's what I did when I crafted my homemade swing scientifically... with a little help from Jones, Hogan, SPS, SLAP, LAWs... even Homer's misconceptions, i.e. what not to do.

Patience, commitment and hard work will reward you... believe it.
 
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Kevin Shields said:
A lot depends on when your clubface is closed. All the way or just flipped closed at impact
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I know this has a lot to do with my swing. What I really struggle with is not flipping or rolling when getting the face closed earlier which also makes the ball go left to left.
 
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Kevin Shields

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spktho said:
I know this has a lot to do with my swing. What I really struggle with is not flipping or rolling when getting the face closed earlier which also makes the ball go left to left.
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Are you closing or tumbling your arms early as well? Hard to flip or roll it more from there.
 
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how about the same question for slicers...

Can't hurt to perhaps provide the same insight for the people who are steep, swing out to in, etc.
 
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I was just going to start a post about this yesterday. If your ball is hooking:

How do you know if it's "really" a hook or if you flipped it closed? Hard to fix if you don't know (at least for me). thx
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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curtisj76 said:
I was just going to start a post about this yesterday. If your ball is hooking:

How do you know if it's "really" a hook or if you flipped it closed? Hard to fix if you don't know (at least for me). thx
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Most of the time a "flip closed hook" is because you are already swinging too far right and you're flipping it closed to try and save it. Both are hooks to me
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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dschultz6072 said:
I could always get a junker from the thrift store, no big deal. I never knew hitting driver off the deck was dangerous. Makes sense now.
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Well i mean you could damage your driver/shaft/even yourself if you do it REALLY WRONG lol. Nothing like having a $500 plus driver and practicing off the deck with it and snap, there goes your shaft or thud there goes a dent in your driver haha.
 
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DCgolf

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If less inside out is your goal, put a head cover or towel behind the golf ball and inside it. I use that drill for in out shallow and I've seen it help
 
Todd Dugan

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Erik_K said:
Can't hurt to perhaps provide the same insight for the people who are steep, swing out to in, etc.
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A hooker is only closing the face to the path because the path is too rightward. He must fix the path first.
A slicer only swings too far leftward because the face is open. He must fix the face first.
 
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