Swing it like Freddie Couples

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Jim Kobylinski

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Is a pretty accurate way to play:

strong grip
aim left
swing right
angle hinge

Pretty damn consistent pull fades allllllllllllll day long. Might just have to try it on the course, it worked so well at the range.
 
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wanole

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FC doesn't aim right and swing left, so I doubt Jim meant that. I sometimes picture FC's swing in my mind when I am having problems getting thru the ball.
 
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freddie says he does not aim as far left as before, but still aims left.


Also, he tries to concentrate turning the left shoulder on the takeaway. Tends to get lazy and goes more to a just picking up the arm as opposed to turning. Lot of talk about Freddie using the RFT, including myself, but the man himself may suggest otherwise, unless he's in lazy mode.
 
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RicoSuave said:
Hi Jim,
aiming left and swinging to the right results in pull fades ?
please explain it in detail.
thx Rico
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It's because you are so OPEN at impact and the face is square or even slightly closed coming into the ball, the ball starts left. As long as you angle hinge, it fades. If you don't, it hooks.

Redgoat..do you think Freddy's back problems come more from his backswing pivot more so than the way he swings?
 
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KappaRaider said:
I think he meant aim right swing left? maybe?
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No, stand open and swing to the right...however your body will pull everything left which is why the ball pulls first then fades if you angle hinge.
 
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jim_0068 said:
Is a pretty accurate way to play:

strong grip
aim left
swing right
angle hinge

Pretty damn consistent pull fades allllllllllllll day long. Might just have to try it on the course, it worked so well at the range.
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Freddy Couples does not implement an angled hinge to fade the ball. You forgot the most important ingredient to Freddy's success - his severely CUPPED left wrist at the top and open clubface. This enables him to hit the hell out of it and fully release every shot and hit a full release fade.

The pattern that you list above sounds more like a Lee Trevino pattern than Freddy.

And both players' ball flights would be considered push fades, not pull fades.
 
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ted bell

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Redgoat said:
Jim,

It is also a great way to screw up your back, be careful...

Red
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Hi Redgoat & all

Is this the best place to ask Redgoat questions?
Can you or somebody else send me a link to your swing video forum?
Thanks

I also have a question about my bad back.
First of all, I used to be as low as a 2.9 handi up until three years ago (had kids). Have broken 70 about once a year before that. Been playing for 15 years.

For the last six months I have been beating balls using information from this forum. My drives (which have been so inconsistent in the past) are better than ever.

However, I've probably been overdoing the axis tilt on the downswing. on video, I see that the clubhead and clubshaft are near perfectly on the elbow plane early on the downswing and through followthrough. I think it's the axis tilt which helps me get on this elbow plane. Now, after getting so used to this (and hurting my back), if I don't tilt enough my clubhead and shaft come in well above plane. My question is: if I don't want to tilt as much, how do I still get my clubhead and shaft back to this elbow plane on the downswing?
 
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vjcapron said:
Freddy Couples does not implement an angled hinge to fade the ball. You forgot the most important ingredient to Freddy's success - his severely CUPPED left wrist at the top and open clubface. This enables him to hit the hell out of it and fully release every shot and hit a full release fade.

The pattern that you list above sounds more like a Lee Trevino pattern than Freddy.

And both players' ball flights would be considered push fades, not pull fades.
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Freddy's wrist is not cupped at impact, it's flat which negates your theory. Go look at some swing sequences of him. He uses angled hinging, otherwise he'd hook it off the planet (which he does at times) when horizontal sneaks in.
 
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Ya I noticed that before.....I always thought of it as some kind of a glitch tho.....but ya.....it would make sense....esp. if he normally uses an Angled Hinge.

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BTW Jim....I figured out Impact Address + Standard Wrist Action ;).....needed more Ex. Action....less underplane.....and taking it back with just my hands (instead of STT + some Ex. Action type-deal) helps. Works good now....new pitching procedure I think.
 
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jim_0068 said:
Freddy's wrist is not cupped at impact, it's flat which negates your theory. Go look at some swing sequences of him. He uses angled hinging, otherwise he'd hook it off the planet (which he does at times) when horizontal sneaks in.
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You need to read a little more closely up there in Chi-town.

I said that Freddy's left wrist was CUPPED at the TOP, so it does NOT NEGATE "my theory".

He's a strong-gripping, open-faced, cupped left wrist at the top player who fully releases the clubhead and hits a powerful fade. No one can possibly hit the ball as far as freddy does while implementing an angled hinge.

An Excerpt from "Total Shotmaking" by Fred Couples....

"It's okay if your left wrist is flat and your clubface is square at the top. I prefer the slightly cupped position, which indicates a slightly open clubface, because I know that on the downswing I can really let me wrists whip into the ball with no fear of hitting a wild hook. I think, therefore, that the cupped position ultimately results in a more powerful golf shot."
 
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jim_0068 said:
Freddy's wrist is not cupped at impact, it's flat which negates your theory. Go look at some swing sequences of him. He uses angled hinging, otherwise he'd hook it off the planet (which he does at times) when horizontal sneaks in.
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I think vjacapron was referring to Freddie's wrist being cupped at the top of the backswing.
 
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ok, here's my question. This is something that I always struggle with, what is the real difference in horizontal hinging and full swivel?
 
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