Mitch, I never really thought about CROKER, my talaway has made a huge difference for me. I feel like the hands and right shoulder take the club away and the club lags behind. At the top I also fell like the club head is last to move, the takeaway really stops casting. Before I would use my hands to start the downswing with this move, gives lot's of power but hard to control in the heat. I would think RYAN PALMER has something like this takaway. When I learned to get to the ball with a no hands feeling things started to clik. Early in the year I was hitting weak fades so I am trying to flatten the downswing getting back on plane . I'm in PEI , I played pretty well at the can-mid this year making it to the semi's and it was not for a balky putter I might have won. I had a 3 footer to go 3 up through 13 missed it and missed the come backer , it was a down hill slider and fast the rest is history losing 1-up to the eventual winner. TIM YORKE