The ball flight for hitter
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Steve Khatib
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Anything they want it to be hitters rotate the grip to change the ball flight where as swingers rotate the plane line via aiming point( this is a general description). Maybee the only tendence of a hitter is a litter lower ball flight.
oztrainee
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The ball seperate from the clubface while the club face is still a little bit open. (The clubface is square at low point)
For Swinger HH, due to the Venturi Effect the ball heading back to the target.
For Hitter AH, unlike the Swinger HH, the ball should have a tendency to the right- should that be a fade or a push?
According to your previous posting 4barrelsOZ, if the hitter rotate the grip and change the ball flight, then what is the different between the HH and their hitter characteristic AH?
For Swinger HH, due to the Venturi Effect the ball heading back to the target.
For Hitter AH, unlike the Swinger HH, the ball should have a tendency to the right- should that be a fade or a push?
According to your previous posting 4barrelsOZ, if the hitter rotate the grip and change the ball flight, then what is the different between the HH and their hitter characteristic AH?
Steve Khatib
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Clubface alignment.
Steve Khatib
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Ken by the way angled hinging is not necessarily a push fade shot outcome.
Steve Khatib
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Yes sure, but you are testing my knowledge now I am no Ben Doyle any more questions and I may have to start reaching for my little yellow book for varification.
oztrainee
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I am not testing your knowledge mate, is just that I am a bit confuse whenever visiting the hitting and swinging. Its always give me the contridiction on what should be the way to follow. The yellow book does not give answer... "The options" lead to more questions..hee hee..
See you in OZ... take care mate.
See you in OZ... take care mate.
Steve Khatib
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Thats okay Ken I was only joking I like you to to ask any questions you have and I will try my best to help it make sense.
Four Barrels,
Correct me if I'm wrong here,
but because angled hinging is anything between vertical and horizontal hinging.
A hitter can use different degrees of angled hinging(closer to horizontal or the other way closer to vertical) to shape the ball.
Sorting through the Circuit Player's Handbook.
B-Ray
Correct me if I'm wrong here,
but because angled hinging is anything between vertical and horizontal hinging.
A hitter can use different degrees of angled hinging(closer to horizontal or the other way closer to vertical) to shape the ball.
Sorting through the Circuit Player's Handbook.
B-Ray
tongzilla
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Not Four Barrels, hope you don't mind bray.
The 'degree' of Angled Hinging should be exactly the same as the Inclined Plane angle in use, since the Hinge Pin is position perpendicular to the Inclined Plane in Angled Hinging -- hence its associated Inclined/Angled Plane of Motion.
For shorter clubs, as the Plane Angle becomes steeper, and the more Angled Hinging apporaches Vertical Hinging charateristics -- i.e. more Layback and slower rate of Clubface closing = more 'bite'.
The 'degree' of Angled Hinging should be exactly the same as the Inclined Plane angle in use, since the Hinge Pin is position perpendicular to the Inclined Plane in Angled Hinging -- hence its associated Inclined/Angled Plane of Motion.
For shorter clubs, as the Plane Angle becomes steeper, and the more Angled Hinging apporaches Vertical Hinging charateristics -- i.e. more Layback and slower rate of Clubface closing = more 'bite'.
Steve Khatib
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You answered it great Leo, just one more thing you left out you cant dual angled hinge only dual verticle or dual horizontal.
Steve Khatib
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Just adding a little more detail your post was great!
I think what 4barrels is saying is you don't need a "strap" hinge to lay the club on the inclined plane because Angled Hinging's Basic Plane is ALREADY the Inclined Plane.
However with Vertical and Horizontal you need Dual Hinges to get from the Basic Plane of Motion to the Inclined Plane.
Four Barrels and Tongzilla,
Good responses!
Now to approach this from the player's point of view.....
I understand now that I should be striving for a true angled hinge(in line with the plane, or the club face is at a 45 degree angle to the baseline at a fixed point past impact we'll say 6 inches each time to get consistency and do a perfect machine hitting motion, and your are saying that the plane affects the rate of closing....
but if I strive for an angled hinge action that is closer to horizontal hinge action(let's say the club face is at a 65 degree angle to the baseline at a fixed point past impact we'll say 6 inches) the ball will go left won't it??
Is this correct, please help i'm trying to learn, because I think I can shape shots with my hitting motion just with hinge action.
Sorting Through the Duffer's Bible.
B-Ray
Good responses!
Now to approach this from the player's point of view.....
I understand now that I should be striving for a true angled hinge(in line with the plane, or the club face is at a 45 degree angle to the baseline at a fixed point past impact we'll say 6 inches each time to get consistency and do a perfect machine hitting motion, and your are saying that the plane affects the rate of closing....
but if I strive for an angled hinge action that is closer to horizontal hinge action(let's say the club face is at a 65 degree angle to the baseline at a fixed point past impact we'll say 6 inches) the ball will go left won't it??
Is this correct, please help i'm trying to learn, because I think I can shape shots with my hitting motion just with hinge action.
Sorting Through the Duffer's Bible.
B-Ray
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