Brian Manzella
Administrator
From a post of mine on—like they say—another site. 
Leo,
I don't think you are going to get a legit discussion on this. (pivot tripod center vs. base of the neck center)
(they cry) Centered Arc!
NO kidding. Who in the heck is saying the POST should move from release point THROUGH the follow-through?
Not me.
You see "Golfing Machine" fans, Leo "Tongzilla" was an attendee at the Canton School.
He is a young man.
He is tall and lean.
He is smart.
and........he has physical ability.
When he would dutifully attempt the "Pivot Tripod Center" with his head precisely between his feet, he would hit a weak slice with about a 200-210 carry......
....tops!
and In my opinion—doing this "Pivot Tripod Center" concept—Leo had a top-of-the-backstroke position that, was for all practical purposes, a reverse pivot.
He just didn't look 'golf like' at the top of the swing....to me....after 23 years of teaching everyone from hacker to Ryder Cupper.
So, when Leo worked with me, I put him in the top of the backswing position that looked like a GOLFER...to me...after giving 23 thousand golf lessons.
The students who were nearby confirmed—Leo looked more like a golfer.
Why?
Because the 5 guys who were watching had looked at golf on TV for 23 thousand hours collectively.....
and Leo DID look more like a golfer.
But, I digress...
Position Golf! The faithful cries!
Nope.
You see, I couldn't give a rat's rear end WHAT Leo LOOKED like, I knew that the REAL problem was Leo had to work WAY TO HARD to get his right shoulder on plane on the downstroke from the "Pivot Tripod Center" concept backswing.
From the Manzella "maiiiii.....waaaaayyyyy" backswing, Leo hit a STRONG 240-250 carry draw.
Great right?
Nope.
Leo was sad,
Leo—a great student and student of G.O.L.F.—didn't want to hit these TOUR-like shots with a backswing that violated any 'rules of G.O.L.F.'
I brought Ben Doyle over to look at Leo's backswing, Ben Loved the Manzella-"maiiiii.....waaaaayyyyy" backswing. He then posed Leo in a very similar—if not exact—top of the backstroke position.
Yet, Leo was sad.
So, Leo left the school being able to hit it pure as snow with the Manzella-"maiiiii.....waaaaayyyyy" backswing or 30 yards shorter and 20 yards to the right with a "Pivot Tripod Center" concept backswing.
He has then talked to some other noted teachers, like Bobby Schaffer, who confirmed what I am saying, that the "Pivot Tripod Center" concept backswing, is just that—a concept. One way to skin a cat. But NOT the only way.
Leo still would like some nice debate on what works better in the real world, but
all he gets is Frank Sinatra songs.
So, sports fans, we sit at a place called the crossroads, looking dead in the eye of another concept—branding.
Lynn is positioning himself as the ultimate straight out of Homer Kelley's mouth teacher on planet earth, ready to revolutionize golf with the "Pivot Tripod Center" concept backswing and the "Right Forearm Takeaway."He has done a great job with this positioning, and a GREAT job getting Homer's little-known concepts some well-deserved light. He is a super motivator, a charming large group indoor presenter, and like Ben Doyle says "He really knows the book."
Brian Manzella—that would be me—just wants to be the best teacher on the planet, and take over (revolutionize) golf by helping the most players play better and the most teachers teach better, by using science, like—but not exclusively—The Golfing Machine, to assist the teacher in finding a pattern that the student can produce the lowest scores with. Letting "The Imperatives Dictate the components." My brand is simply this—I can get you to do it and I can get you to understand it, but the IT will be, whatever works AS LONG AS IT PRODUCES A STRAIGHT PLANE LINE, CLUBHEAD LAG and CONTROLS THE CLUBFACE WITH HINGE ACTION.
In my opinion—yes "maiiiii.....waaaaayyyyy" opinion—the golf world is better for having us both.
And Leo need to turn around the base of his neck.
Leo,
I don't think you are going to get a legit discussion on this. (pivot tripod center vs. base of the neck center)
(they cry) Centered Arc!
NO kidding. Who in the heck is saying the POST should move from release point THROUGH the follow-through?
Not me.
You see "Golfing Machine" fans, Leo "Tongzilla" was an attendee at the Canton School.
He is a young man.
He is tall and lean.
He is smart.
and........he has physical ability.
When he would dutifully attempt the "Pivot Tripod Center" with his head precisely between his feet, he would hit a weak slice with about a 200-210 carry......
....tops!
and In my opinion—doing this "Pivot Tripod Center" concept—Leo had a top-of-the-backstroke position that, was for all practical purposes, a reverse pivot.
He just didn't look 'golf like' at the top of the swing....to me....after 23 years of teaching everyone from hacker to Ryder Cupper.
So, when Leo worked with me, I put him in the top of the backswing position that looked like a GOLFER...to me...after giving 23 thousand golf lessons.
The students who were nearby confirmed—Leo looked more like a golfer.
Why?
Because the 5 guys who were watching had looked at golf on TV for 23 thousand hours collectively.....
and Leo DID look more like a golfer.
But, I digress...
Position Golf! The faithful cries!
Nope.
You see, I couldn't give a rat's rear end WHAT Leo LOOKED like, I knew that the REAL problem was Leo had to work WAY TO HARD to get his right shoulder on plane on the downstroke from the "Pivot Tripod Center" concept backswing.
From the Manzella "maiiiii.....waaaaayyyyy" backswing, Leo hit a STRONG 240-250 carry draw.
Great right?
Nope.
Leo was sad,
Leo—a great student and student of G.O.L.F.—didn't want to hit these TOUR-like shots with a backswing that violated any 'rules of G.O.L.F.'
I brought Ben Doyle over to look at Leo's backswing, Ben Loved the Manzella-"maiiiii.....waaaaayyyyy" backswing. He then posed Leo in a very similar—if not exact—top of the backstroke position.
Yet, Leo was sad.
So, Leo left the school being able to hit it pure as snow with the Manzella-"maiiiii.....waaaaayyyyy" backswing or 30 yards shorter and 20 yards to the right with a "Pivot Tripod Center" concept backswing.
He has then talked to some other noted teachers, like Bobby Schaffer, who confirmed what I am saying, that the "Pivot Tripod Center" concept backswing, is just that—a concept. One way to skin a cat. But NOT the only way.
Leo still would like some nice debate on what works better in the real world, but
all he gets is Frank Sinatra songs.
So, sports fans, we sit at a place called the crossroads, looking dead in the eye of another concept—branding.
Lynn is positioning himself as the ultimate straight out of Homer Kelley's mouth teacher on planet earth, ready to revolutionize golf with the "Pivot Tripod Center" concept backswing and the "Right Forearm Takeaway."He has done a great job with this positioning, and a GREAT job getting Homer's little-known concepts some well-deserved light. He is a super motivator, a charming large group indoor presenter, and like Ben Doyle says "He really knows the book."
Brian Manzella—that would be me—just wants to be the best teacher on the planet, and take over (revolutionize) golf by helping the most players play better and the most teachers teach better, by using science, like—but not exclusively—The Golfing Machine, to assist the teacher in finding a pattern that the student can produce the lowest scores with. Letting "The Imperatives Dictate the components." My brand is simply this—I can get you to do it and I can get you to understand it, but the IT will be, whatever works AS LONG AS IT PRODUCES A STRAIGHT PLANE LINE, CLUBHEAD LAG and CONTROLS THE CLUBFACE WITH HINGE ACTION.
In my opinion—yes "maiiiii.....waaaaayyyyy" opinion—the golf world is better for having us both.
And Leo need to turn around the base of his neck.
