The IDEAL front view golf swing by Sam Snead
- Thread starter Brian Manzella
- Start date
- Status
birdie_man
New
Nono............double_bogey_man says:
I know how good Snead was...........
Maybe he just meant this is very good quality footage of this great swing.
I know how good Snead was...........
Maybe he just meant this is very good quality footage of this great swing.
birdie_man
New
Might be worth saying that he did get beat though. (on that particular day)
Longer though yes.
Notorious B.E.N.
New
Very true. If I remember right Hogan hit all 18 greens and fairways. That was probally typical for him, however.
birdie_man
New
More typical than most people that's for sure. I think he called it one of the best rounds he had ever played. (I think he meant shotmaking)
Notorious B.E.N.
New
To youu did it look like Sam took the putter way to inside and hit it way out on the toe? It was a very weird stroke. No wonder he was a bad putter later in life. But hey, 80 somethin tournaments won.
birdie_man
New
I would have to watch it again man. Sounds like a not bad idea on this rainy day now that I think about it actually.
You may be able to find some footage on YouTube about that one even. Although most of the H vs. S footage on there was clips of The Hulkster if I remember right.
You may be able to find some footage on YouTube about that one even. Although most of the H vs. S footage on there was clips of The Hulkster if I remember right.
thefuture37
Banned
that is an awesome dvd, but watching both of those guys putt is brutal. both were using so much hands and flipping at it, its no wonder neither was known as a good putter. with the slower green speeds of the day, some wrists were needed, but they both over did it.
mandrin
New
Some more interesting points in Sam Snead’s downswing.
The forward press seems to be done with the knees.
The lead knee remains initially very stable and only moves towards the trail knee during the last moment of the up swing. This action is like a little booster action allowing deeper coiling to be obtained.
Down swing -
Initial move - lead knee buckles out considerably towards the target whilst weight remains on trail side as there is no lateral hip slide.
Old timers such as Joe Norwood and Paul Bertholy were much inspired by this particular down swing action typically of Sam Snead's swing.
Nick Pice, if I remember correctly, mentions in his book keeping the weight onto the trail side in the initial phase of the downswing.
The lead knee has a considerable action during the down swing. The large buckling action towards the target is followed by a substantial reverse action when the lead leg (and trail leg) is snapped straight.
Notice how the trail elbow in the down-swing is very clearly visible below the lead arm which isn't the case in the up-swing. This is indicative of a flattening of the down swing from the top.
There is a remarkable stable vertical stacking of the body during the downswing.
Upswing-
The forward press seems to be done with the knees.
The lead knee remains initially very stable and only moves towards the trail knee during the last moment of the up swing. This action is like a little booster action allowing deeper coiling to be obtained.
Down swing -
Initial move - lead knee buckles out considerably towards the target whilst weight remains on trail side as there is no lateral hip slide.
Old timers such as Joe Norwood and Paul Bertholy were much inspired by this particular down swing action typically of Sam Snead's swing.
Nick Pice, if I remember correctly, mentions in his book keeping the weight onto the trail side in the initial phase of the downswing.
The lead knee has a considerable action during the down swing. The large buckling action towards the target is followed by a substantial reverse action when the lead leg (and trail leg) is snapped straight.
Notice how the trail elbow in the down-swing is very clearly visible below the lead arm which isn't the case in the up-swing. This is indicative of a flattening of the down swing from the top.
There is a remarkable stable vertical stacking of the body during the downswing.
Notorious B.E.N.
New
self-mastery
New
I believe that this guy had the perfect "every man's" swing. Oh such utilitarian beauty!
Nelson - yes
Hogan - no
Nelson - yes
Hogan - no
Last edited:
birdie_man
New
The Elbow Planer's Middle Of The Matrix?
there are two version. a double shift and a single shift.
even tho a single shift doesnt really happen
self-mastery
New
Didn't Palmer have a single shift? I thought that it was the zero shift that doesn't occur in the real world...
http://www.brianmanzella.com/forum/...s-brian-manzella-plus-answers-hot-chilli.html
a downswing that is truly down the turned shoulder plane doesnt exist. this, to me, renders both zero and single shifts impossible.
this is because to have true TSP impact position the club shaft, the right forearm and the shoulder plane must all be on the TSP.
for this to happen, the piece that connects the right forearm and the right shoulder must therefore also be on the TSP i.e the right bicep. to do this basically your entire right arm and shoulder line must be on the TSP.
this is highly impractical and almost impossible to do.
you can have the shaf on the tsp as well as the shoulders, but the forearm probly wont, will probly be below the shaft a la david toms
you can also obviously have the shaft on a slightly higher angle then the elbow plane, but if the forearm is on plane with the shaft, to me, that IS the elbow plane, therefore a shift has occured and therefore no single or zero sihft
I'm with you - it looks very sloppy but I am a novice's novice - obviously it worked for him - masterful ball striker but his swing is like Hideo Nomo's wind up
addamsmith
New
Hi Brian
I am glad you could use one of my clips. I have a few others I could send to you
Addam
I am glad you could use one of my clips. I have a few others I could send to you
Addam
- Status