faux_maestro
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I really don't remember Tiger having that much trouble off the tee until he went to Haney but I could be wrong.
The Real Proof that Tiger's Game is Back
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For him to write that book completely makes me not believe anything he says.
hp12c
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Rory is better now. Now compare them when they both were Rory's age. If there is a difference, it ain't by much.
And if you think Tiger has another gear above what he's already shown this year... I say poooy.
lets see at 23 TW acomplished this.
AGE 23 (1999)
• World Sportsman of the Year as chosen by the founding members of the World Sports Academy in voting for the Laureus Sports Awards
• The Associated Press Male Athlete of the Year for the second time in three years and the seventh man -- and the second golfer -- to earn the award twice since it was begun in 1931, following Byron Nelson, Don Budge, Sandy Koufax, Carl Lewis, Joe Montana and Michael Jordan, who won three times
• ESPY Male Athlete of the Year for the second time in three years and ESPY Golfer of the Decade
• Player of the Year as selected by PGA TOUR ( Jack Nicklaus Award), PGA of America
and Golf Writers Association of America
• Lowest adjusted scoring average (68.43) for Byron Nelson Award (PGA TOUR) and Vardon Trophy (PGA of America)
• Leading money-winner on PGA TOUR (Arnold Palmer Award) with $6,616,585 (most ever won in a single year). Had margin of $2,974,679 over runner-up, a figure greater than the previous single-year record. Had 81.7 percent more than David Duval, the highest percentage since Byron Nelson in 1945 (87.2 percent) and Ben Hogan in 1946 (85 percent)
• Won $7,681,625 worldwide in 25 events (100.02 percent more than runner-up)
• Had 16 top-10 finishes in 21 starts on PGA TOUR, and missed no 36-hole cuts, extending his streak of no cuts to 39 consecutive events
• Mark H. McCormack Award-winner as the No. 1 player on the 1999 Official World Golf Ranking. Achieved the highest points average (20.61) in the history of the Ranking and had the largest margin ever over his closest rival (7.46 points), leading David Duval by that amount on Nov. 7. His 750 points earned in 1999 were also a record
• Won - Buick Invitational
• Won - Deutsche Bank - SAP Open (Germany)
• Won - Memorial Tournament
• Won - Motorola Western Open
• Won - PGA Championship (fifth youngest to win at age 23 years, seven months, 16 days)
• Won - WGC NEC Invitational
• Won - National Car Rental Classic
• Won - Tour Championship
• Won - WGC American Express Championship
• Won - World Cup individual and team titles (with Mark O'Meara)
• Won - PGA Grand Slam
• Qualified for United States team for Ryder Cup Matches
• Set records for most victories by age 23 and after three years on the PGA TOUR with 15 PGA TOUR victories and 21 overall. Horton Smith had 10 victories after three years in 1929 and 15 victories in 1931 at age 23
• His eight PGA TOUR victories and 11 overall were the most in one year at such a young age since Horton Smith had eight PGA TOUR victories in 1929 at age 21
• Was the first to have as many as eight PGA TOUR victories in one year since Johnny Miller won eight in 1974
• Won four consecutive PGA TOUR events, the first to do that since Ben Hogan in 1953
• In three years as a professional, ending with WGC NEC Invitational, won $8,965,129 on PGA TOUR ($10,895,083 worldwide) with 12 victories and 40 top-10 finishes in 67 events (16 victories and 45 top-10 finishes in 81 events worldwide)
• Participated in the first network telecast of a golf event live in prime time, defeating David Duval, 2 and 1, in the Motorola Showdown at Sherwood, at Sherwood Country Club in Thousand Oaks, Calif., to win $1.1 million (including $200,000 to charity)
Rory
5 pga wins
euro wins 4
asian wins 1
major wins 2
yeah pretty close
lets see at 23 TW acomplished this.
AGE 23 (1999)
• World Sportsman of the Year as chosen by the founding members of the World Sports Academy in voting for the Laureus Sports Awards
• The Associated Press Male Athlete of the Year for the second time in three years and the seventh man -- and the second golfer -- to earn the award twice since it was begun in 1931, following Byron Nelson, Don Budge, Sandy Koufax, Carl Lewis, Joe Montana and Michael Jordan, who won three times
• ESPY Male Athlete of the Year for the second time in three years and ESPY Golfer of the Decade
• Player of the Year as selected by PGA TOUR ( Jack Nicklaus Award), PGA of America
and Golf Writers Association of America
• Lowest adjusted scoring average (68.43) for Byron Nelson Award (PGA TOUR) and Vardon Trophy (PGA of America)
• Leading money-winner on PGA TOUR (Arnold Palmer Award) with $6,616,585 (most ever won in a single year). Had margin of $2,974,679 over runner-up, a figure greater than the previous single-year record. Had 81.7 percent more than David Duval, the highest percentage since Byron Nelson in 1945 (87.2 percent) and Ben Hogan in 1946 (85 percent)
• Won $7,681,625 worldwide in 25 events (100.02 percent more than runner-up)
• Had 16 top-10 finishes in 21 starts on PGA TOUR, and missed no 36-hole cuts, extending his streak of no cuts to 39 consecutive events
• Mark H. McCormack Award-winner as the No. 1 player on the 1999 Official World Golf Ranking. Achieved the highest points average (20.61) in the history of the Ranking and had the largest margin ever over his closest rival (7.46 points), leading David Duval by that amount on Nov. 7. His 750 points earned in 1999 were also a record
• Won - Buick Invitational
• Won - Deutsche Bank - SAP Open (Germany)
• Won - Memorial Tournament
• Won - Motorola Western Open
• Won - PGA Championship (fifth youngest to win at age 23 years, seven months, 16 days)
• Won - WGC NEC Invitational
• Won - National Car Rental Classic
• Won - Tour Championship
• Won - WGC American Express Championship
• Won - World Cup individual and team titles (with Mark O'Meara)
• Won - PGA Grand Slam
• Qualified for United States team for Ryder Cup Matches
• Set records for most victories by age 23 and after three years on the PGA TOUR with 15 PGA TOUR victories and 21 overall. Horton Smith had 10 victories after three years in 1929 and 15 victories in 1931 at age 23
• His eight PGA TOUR victories and 11 overall were the most in one year at such a young age since Horton Smith had eight PGA TOUR victories in 1929 at age 21
• Was the first to have as many as eight PGA TOUR victories in one year since Johnny Miller won eight in 1974
• Won four consecutive PGA TOUR events, the first to do that since Ben Hogan in 1953
• In three years as a professional, ending with WGC NEC Invitational, won $8,965,129 on PGA TOUR ($10,895,083 worldwide) with 12 victories and 40 top-10 finishes in 67 events (16 victories and 45 top-10 finishes in 81 events worldwide)
• Participated in the first network telecast of a golf event live in prime time, defeating David Duval, 2 and 1, in the Motorola Showdown at Sherwood, at Sherwood Country Club in Thousand Oaks, Calif., to win $1.1 million (including $200,000 to charity)
Rory
5 pga wins
euro wins 4
asian wins 1
major wins 2
yeah pretty close
I am getting the distinct impression you are the biggest Tiger Woods fan since Earl Woods.
Anyways, the score is 2-2. Tiger would tell you that much. But that ESPY sure was cute.
magicmarker
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Is it fair to only compare them at their best though?
In what is 'a game of misses' Tiger played 17 events and missed 2 cuts, Mcilroy played in 14 and missed 3 cuts. Mcilroy is very spectacular when he is on, but if they have to play head to head on their bad days Woods would easily out-GRIND him IMO.
In what is 'a game of misses' Tiger played 17 events and missed 2 cuts, Mcilroy played in 14 and missed 3 cuts. Mcilroy is very spectacular when he is on, but if they have to play head to head on their bad days Woods would easily out-GRIND him IMO.
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Burner
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lets see at 23 TW acomplished this.
AGE 23 (1999)
• World Sportsman of the Year as chosen by the founding members of the World Sports Academy in voting for the Laureus Sports Awards
• The Associated Press Male Athlete of the Year for the second time in three years and the seventh man -- and the second golfer -- to earn the award twice since it was begun in 1931, following Byron Nelson, Don Budge, Sandy Koufax, Carl Lewis, Joe Montana and Michael Jordan, who won three times
• ESPY Male Athlete of the Year for the second time in three years and ESPY Golfer of the Decade
• Player of the Year as selected by PGA TOUR ( Jack Nicklaus Award), PGA of America
and Golf Writers Association of America
• Lowest adjusted scoring average (68.43) for Byron Nelson Award (PGA TOUR) and Vardon Trophy (PGA of America)
• Leading money-winner on PGA TOUR (Arnold Palmer Award) with $6,616,585 (most ever won in a single year). Had margin of $2,974,679 over runner-up, a figure greater than the previous single-year record. Had 81.7 percent more than David Duval, the highest percentage since Byron Nelson in 1945 (87.2 percent) and Ben Hogan in 1946 (85 percent)
• Won $7,681,625 worldwide in 25 events (100.02 percent more than runner-up)
• Had 16 top-10 finishes in 21 starts on PGA TOUR, and missed no 36-hole cuts, extending his streak of no cuts to 39 consecutive events
• Mark H. McCormack Award-winner as the No. 1 player on the 1999 Official World Golf Ranking. Achieved the highest points average (20.61) in the history of the Ranking and had the largest margin ever over his closest rival (7.46 points), leading David Duval by that amount on Nov. 7. His 750 points earned in 1999 were also a record
• Won - Buick Invitational
• Won - Deutsche Bank - SAP Open (Germany)
• Won - Memorial Tournament
• Won - Motorola Western Open
• Won - PGA Championship (fifth youngest to win at age 23 years, seven months, 16 days)
• Won - WGC NEC Invitational
• Won - National Car Rental Classic
• Won - Tour Championship
• Won - WGC American Express Championship
• Won - World Cup individual and team titles (with Mark O'Meara)
• Won - PGA Grand Slam
• Qualified for United States team for Ryder Cup Matches
• Set records for most victories by age 23 and after three years on the PGA TOUR with 15 PGA TOUR victories and 21 overall. Horton Smith had 10 victories after three years in 1929 and 15 victories in 1931 at age 23
• His eight PGA TOUR victories and 11 overall were the most in one year at such a young age since Horton Smith had eight PGA TOUR victories in 1929 at age 21
• Was the first to have as many as eight PGA TOUR victories in one year since Johnny Miller won eight in 1974
• Won four consecutive PGA TOUR events, the first to do that since Ben Hogan in 1953
• In three years as a professional, ending with WGC NEC Invitational, won $8,965,129 on PGA TOUR ($10,895,083 worldwide) with 12 victories and 40 top-10 finishes in 67 events (16 victories and 45 top-10 finishes in 81 events worldwide)
• Participated in the first network telecast of a golf event live in prime time, defeating David Duval, 2 and 1, in the Motorola Showdown at Sherwood, at Sherwood Country Club in Thousand Oaks, Calif., to win $1.1 million (including $200,000 to charity)
Rory
5 pga wins
euro wins 4
asian wins 1
major wins 2
yeah pretty close
You forget that El Tigre did not have Rory to contend with in those days. Different now though.
Still, Tiger was only 3 shots adrift today so you could argue that he's getting close.
Just stirring the pot a little.
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hp12c
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aaron_lohan
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I think that is clutching at straws and wishful thinking.
mgranato
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lets see at 23 TW acomplished this.
AGE 23 (1999)
• World Sportsman of the Year as chosen by the founding members of the World Sports Academy in voting for the Laureus Sports Awards
• The Associated Press Male Athlete of the Year for the second time in three years and the seventh man -- and the second golfer -- to earn the award twice since it was begun in 1931, following Byron Nelson, Don Budge, Sandy Koufax, Carl Lewis, Joe Montana and Michael Jordan, who won three times
• ESPY Male Athlete of the Year for the second time in three years and ESPY Golfer of the Decade
• Player of the Year as selected by PGA TOUR ( Jack Nicklaus Award), PGA of America
and Golf Writers Association of America
• Lowest adjusted scoring average (68.43) for Byron Nelson Award (PGA TOUR) and Vardon Trophy (PGA of America)
• Leading money-winner on PGA TOUR (Arnold Palmer Award) with $6,616,585 (most ever won in a single year). Had margin of $2,974,679 over runner-up, a figure greater than the previous single-year record. Had 81.7 percent more than David Duval, the highest percentage since Byron Nelson in 1945 (87.2 percent) and Ben Hogan in 1946 (85 percent)
• Won $7,681,625 worldwide in 25 events (100.02 percent more than runner-up)
• Had 16 top-10 finishes in 21 starts on PGA TOUR, and missed no 36-hole cuts, extending his streak of no cuts to 39 consecutive events
• Mark H. McCormack Award-winner as the No. 1 player on the 1999 Official World Golf Ranking. Achieved the highest points average (20.61) in the history of the Ranking and had the largest margin ever over his closest rival (7.46 points), leading David Duval by that amount on Nov. 7. His 750 points earned in 1999 were also a record
• Won - Buick Invitational
• Won - Deutsche Bank - SAP Open (Germany)
• Won - Memorial Tournament
• Won - Motorola Western Open
• Won - PGA Championship (fifth youngest to win at age 23 years, seven months, 16 days)
• Won - WGC NEC Invitational
• Won - National Car Rental Classic
• Won - Tour Championship
• Won - WGC American Express Championship
• Won - World Cup individual and team titles (with Mark O'Meara)
• Won - PGA Grand Slam
• Qualified for United States team for Ryder Cup Matches
• Set records for most victories by age 23 and after three years on the PGA TOUR with 15 PGA TOUR victories and 21 overall. Horton Smith had 10 victories after three years in 1929 and 15 victories in 1931 at age 23
• His eight PGA TOUR victories and 11 overall were the most in one year at such a young age since Horton Smith had eight PGA TOUR victories in 1929 at age 21
• Was the first to have as many as eight PGA TOUR victories in one year since Johnny Miller won eight in 1974
• Won four consecutive PGA TOUR events, the first to do that since Ben Hogan in 1953
• In three years as a professional, ending with WGC NEC Invitational, won $8,965,129 on PGA TOUR ($10,895,083 worldwide) with 12 victories and 40 top-10 finishes in 67 events (16 victories and 45 top-10 finishes in 81 events worldwide)
• Participated in the first network telecast of a golf event live in prime time, defeating David Duval, 2 and 1, in the Motorola Showdown at Sherwood, at Sherwood Country Club in Thousand Oaks, Calif., to win $1.1 million (including $200,000 to charity)
Rory
5 pga wins
euro wins 4
asian wins 1
major wins 2
yeah pretty close
Okay... let me condence this for everyone NOT wearing a "I heart Tiger" shirt this morining.
1st and foremost, I didn't see in your "won" column the '97 Masters. So that gets added to the list.... but.... you take that ridiculous Grand Slam and team deal off. C'mon, you're better than that. Now you are left with 9 REAL wins, two being majors.
Rory has exactly 9 wins (you have to combine the two tours because he has only been a PGA Tour memeber for 2 of his seasons), two being majors. So that pretty much means, they are pretty much the same, right?
As for the other TigerWoods.com talking points listed... I quit reading after the word "ESPY"
Actually Rory is saying himself that he is more British then Irish
Rory McIlroy will represent Great Britain not Ireland at 2016 Olympics | Mail Online
Thx for that. Good read.
One of his golf partners in Wednesday’s pro-am asked him about his travels and came out with an eye-opening line: ‘Ever played at Kiawah?’
Imagine one or two of the prima donnas on tour being asked that after creating history at the place so recently? Rory just had a broad smile on his face as he replied: ‘Yeah. Funnily enough, I played it a couple of weeks ago.’
mgranato
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I don't think this is the answer. Rory is 76th in strokes gained putting, Tiger is 26th, and Phil is 5th. For the year, Tiger's putted better than Rory.
faux_maestro
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I think it's less overall putting and more timely putting. Which suggests something mental IMO.
mgranato
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Hard to argue against. 6th in total driving. 8th in ball striking. 26th in putts gained. It doesn't seem to be swing or putter related.
Yeah totally agree his putting has deserted him in key situations, he shoots himself into contention. It is then when the pressure builds that his putting seems to go missing. But he will be back, once a few start dropping for him in the clutch the confidence will return. It is lights out for the rest of the field after that.
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Tiger didn't birdie a single Par 5 yesterday cause he hit poor drives on all of them. I think that had more to do with him not getting second place.
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