The search for new blades.....

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EdZ

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Just wanted to get some opinions from folks on the board re: the best pure blades on the market?

I've got Mac 1025M's, which are great, great sticks, they play more like a cavity back though, can't work the ball much with them. I've never been a huge fan of the MP 33's. TA1's are pretty crappy from my limited testing of them. Haven't really hit too many of the titelist blades either.

Anyone here play the KZG ZO's? I'm thinking about checking them out, as well as the Feel blades, since I tend to like a heavier swingweight.
 
My members, that I have sold Hogan FTX, all seem satisfied. However, only 8-Pw are blades, 7 iron on up are slightly cavity backed.
 
Golfsmith Snake Eyes have two new blades, a true and a hybird. Both are sweet to hit. Wishons are nice put don't sell to public anymore if you like to glue sticks. And whats wromg with the Mac's? I have a set in San Diego and love them. It's the ball that doesn't want to move anymore. Stick with slight fades and draws. If you hit the driver well, its a short iron after that anyway.
 

EdZ

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good point about the ball njmp2, too true.

They really should knock the ball back and have a standard for the pros to play like every other ball sport.

Nothing wrong with the mac 1025's at all
 

Jim Kobylinski

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I play tech power forged blades...they aren't a "true" blade, each has a small cavity but they play like a blade. They have a soft face and are very easy to work.
 
Actually Wishon will still sell to a small fry. All you have to do is submit your information to them. I dont even have a true golf shop so to speak, but I do tinker around with my own stuff and equipment from people I work with, friends etc. They make great products. The last item I put together was one of their 321 hybrid 4 irons with their GI335 shafts. Man, that club is as solid as any oem hybrid on the market.
 

redan

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Blade Golf has the most expensive component blades in the world: about 1000 dollars for 3-PW. But are they worth it? Don't know. They have a nice web site. They custom fit and coat the raw heads in a thin layer of copper before they add the chrome...
 
quote:Originally posted by redan

Blade Golf has the most expensive component blades in the world: about 1000 dollars for 3-PW. But are they worth it? Don't know. They have a nice web site. They custom fit and coat the raw heads in a thin layer of copper before they add the chrome...

I love my Hogan Apex Pros.
 
my question is has there ever been any testing done that shows you can work the ball better with blades i played mizuno mp11's for two years and mp14's for 3 and mp33's for one year now i play ping isi and ive never hit the ball better i still can work the ball both ways just as good as the blades the only difference i notice is they go a little higher especially in the long irons and there more foriging on off center hits
 
quote:Originally posted by bantamben1

my question is has there ever been any testing done that shows you can work the ball better with blades i played mizuno mp11's for two years and mp14's for 3 and mp33's for one year now i play ping isi and ive never hit the ball better i still can work the ball both ways just as good as the blades the only difference i notice is they go a little higher especially in the long irons and there more foriging on off center hits
Blade clubfaces are small and have a smaller sweetspot, you develop a great sense of impact with a blade. This helps you work a ball because the ability to sense feedback is heightened. With a cavity back, self-improvement clubfaces, the sweetspot is bigger and off centered hits produce acceptable shots so the feedback is lessened. Also the softer metals used for blades add to the feedback as the ball lingers longer on the blade. Or So It Seems. Most testing shows feedback is almost totally an audio response. And that blades and most cavity backs play about equal. It is good that blades can make you a better ball striker but a better ball striker can hit anything. I like blades, they sound so good. LOL
 
We recently discussed blade performance, but cannot find it. It's been awhile since I've played blades, so I can't really comment on how it would affect my game. What are some of the more recent experiences some have had in their game by switching from cavity to blade or blade to cavity?

What about the improvement in golf ball technology and its place with blades?




Blades Versus Cavity Backs: A Golf Club Epiphany



As I've spent 50 years playing this crazy game, and 25+ years in the equipment industry, I've had a number of eye-opening "epiphanies" (the dictionary defines "epiphany" as "a sudden, intuitive perception of or insight into the reality or essential meaning of something.").

One of those came in the mid-1990's as I was reviewing some Iron Byron results we were doing at Hogan.

Let me set this up by saying that I've always played blades - I like the shot control, trajectory and feel of them, not to mention the clean compact appearance behind the ball.

But for a few years prior to this time, I was playing Hogan Edge cavity back forgings. They felt OK, and my handicap stayed about scratch, but my game seemed different. There certainly was no question that they were forgiving.

Back to the research. I was looking at a chart of shot patterns of different irons we were testing, and was particularly struck by something I saw.

With Iron Byron set to swing a 6-iron with about 165 yards of distance, the cavity back irons we were testing were producing a pattern on dead center hits that was about 8' wide and about 15-17' long !

These are duplicate swings, dead center impact, and these shots are coming out 3-4' right or left of the target line, and as much as 8-9' short or long !

Not just with one model of iron, but with nearly every cavity back we tested. Now, realize that as we moved the impact further from the center of the face, the forgiveness factor was excellent, but I was puzzled by that "dead center" pattern.

Then I looked at the chart for the new Apex blade we were developing. On heel misses, it was slightly worse than the cavity back models.

On toe misses, the Apex was significantly worse (blades have very little mass out on the toe).

But on dead center hits - our shot pattern was about 1/4 the size of the cavity back pattern ! In other words, the perfect shots were much better !

So that got me thinking. My next round of golf, I dusted off my old set of Joe Powell blades, and I had an eye-opening day.

I was playing very well at the time, but not making that many birdies. That day I hit it within 10' of the flag a number of times, and while I did experience some misses that were worse than I had been getting with the Edge irons, my best shots were better than they had been in some time.

One of my friends who knows my game well exclaimed, "Where's that guy been ?"

He went on to explain that he had noticed I had not been "knocking down flags" for some time, which I usually did at least once or twice a round.

So, I made a permanent switch back to blade irons, my reasoning being that I will judge my rounds much more by the quality of my best shots than the acceptability of my worse ones.

I've kept that philosophy consistent. It's a common belief that mid- to high-handicap players need all the help they can get, and maybe that's true, but I firmly believe that more golfers can play blades than you might think - maybe even you !

There are some very good ones on the market now that have worked on the toe-hit forgiveness, so you might be surprised if you took a set of demos out for a round or two.

Just food for thought and maybe a golf tip that will help you enjoy the game more.

Blades Versus Cavity Backs: A Golf Club Epiphany
 
Why is it hard to work the ball with cavity backed irons?

I would also like to hear opinions on this. I don't believe the ball has any particular prejudices about the instrument delivering swing path and face angles..... so how is a cavity back compromised relative to workability??:confused:
 
Actually Wishon will still sell to a small fry. All you have to do is submit your information to them. I dont even have a true golf shop so to speak, but I do tinker around with my own stuff and equipment from people I work with, friends etc. They make great products. The last item I put together was one of their 321 hybrid 4 irons with their GI335 shafts. Man, that club is as solid as any oem hybrid on the market.

I agree on the Wishons. The 550 is an awesome blade with super feedback. The other benefit is that you can match the blade (550M) with a matching cavity back (550C) anywhere that you need a little forgiveness in the set. The quality is as good or better as anything you'll buy off the rack.
 
Here's some suggestions for 'pure blades'

Mizuno MP-67
Miura
Cobra MB

Cleveland CG Tour
Nike VR Blades
Callaway X-Prototypes
Bridgestone J36

The ones in bold I've hit. I'm actually getting some MP 62's which I pick up tomorrow, but I don't consider them a 'pure blade.' Probably Miura is your purest of the bunch. But I really liked the Cobra and Bridgestone blades.




3JACK
 
Just wondering what you guys thought abouth the Wishon MB irons. I noticed that alot of people don't mention Toms stuff, and Im curious as to why. I have never hit them and I don't even know that I could tell you the difference even if I did. Are they not popular because of re-sale value, or do you guys just not dig em? No pun intended.
 
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