The weight shift isn't dead.....Rocco and Brandt win.

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There's a lot these guys do that the 2D crowd doesn't like. No one on the planet has played better than Snedeker the past 4-5 months... can't win 15 mil with just a putter.
 

Kevin Shields

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If there's any question to how well these two hit it, you simply just don't know what you're talking about. Simple as that.
 
And yet the Champions Tour announcers were not very complimentary of Rocco's move. "We're always waiting to see foul balls with so much side to side motion."

Crazy . . .
 

Kevin Shields

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You could've set your watch to the whack job chiming in with some silly stat for 49 year olds on the big Tour. Another Hail Mary for team Micro Move.
 
You don't think a good sense of timing is a critical component in every effective golf swing????? :)

I know I don't like the term "timing" in the golf swing. "Sequencing" is imo a much better term for golf as the ball is just sitting there.

There is "timing" in hitting a thrown baseball, though.
 
Brian told a short story to me and Billy McKinney when I last had a lesson with him about one of the Manzella guys and, I think it was, Billy Mayfair. They were on the range side by side and Manzella's guy was working his flat left wrist and forward lean through impact, delofting and hitting these medium trajectory 7 iron bullets that would hit the green on the range and take 2 or 3 big hops before stopping. Billy Mayfair by contrast was hitting what looked like these high flying marshmallow 6 irons to the same green that hit and stopped right away. Manzella's guy stopped and watched a few of Billy's shots, turned to Brian and said "I don't have a chance".

I really don't know what a "timing dependent release style" is, but I suspect you are referencing a "flip"?

I was already suckered into "keep the clubface square longer into and past impact". "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice...."
 
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Due to the fact that Brandt's swing has excellent rhythm, he is able to get away with his (relatively) timing-dependent release style.

EVERY release is timing dependent. This notion that one release is more or less timing dependent is, in my opinion, bull.

P.S. No offense personally to you, I've believed this before myself. This idea is all over the internet/magazines/television.
 

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Consciously trying to 'drive' your hands forward and trying to keep the club up the left arm requires more timing through impact than just naturally letting the club do what it wants to do.
 
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Due to the fact that Brandt's swing has excellent rhythm, he is able to get away with his (relatively) timing-dependent release style.

Timing-dependent release style? Lifter, why do you waste your time with this site? You have an genda. You believe the "The fearsome four horseman and micro-man" have it "right", so just hang with them and quit trying to stir things up.
 
Does anyone agree with me that Brandt's overall swing generally appears to have excellent rhythm? Does he have any particular swing characteristics that appear to be rhythmical? Or is good rhythm / tempo just something that highly-athletic people have and others don't?

I think good rhythm is a function of good sequencing. And body-kinesthetic intelligence if you are familiar with Howard Gardner.
 
Has anyone read about how certain backswing:downswing timing ratios work better with certain players? Do the instructors on this site agree with that idea?

If so, what kind of backswing:downswing timing ratios do you typically aim for?
 
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