This 'release' thing. Pardon me, but I'm somewhat skeptical.

[ckeller14]

Jim McClean, in his book, "The 8 Step Swing" said that it is possible to have too much lag in the swing. When this is the case, he advises the player to try to "spring" the shaft forward early in the downswing.

But I contend that all of the force on the shaft is toward the player at impact, as Brian presents in his video. Great-ball-strikers continue straightening the right arm past impact for full-power swings. So although the hands may be going "up" the plane at impact, they are also extending away from the player's center. Extention of the arms for power is fundamental in sports.

Besides the fact that the force at the shaft has been measured, not guessed at by looking at pictures, If they didn't continue to straighten their trail arm they couldn't keep up with the club and would finish with one handed follow throughs.

 

[birly-shirly]

But I contend that all of the force on the shaft is toward the player at impact, as Brian presents in his video. Great-ball-strikers continue straightening the right arm past impact for full-power swings. So although the hands may be going "up" the plane at impact, they are also extending away from the player's center. Extention of the arms for power is fundamental in sports.

It takes approx a 100lb pull on a driver through impact just to keep the club travelling in an arc - yes? Are there any measurements of forces being applied across the shaft (by good or bad players), and their magnitude?

Also, do the arms extend post impact? Or are they extended by the momentum of the club?

 

[ckeller14]

It takes approx a 100lb pull on a driver through impact just to keep the club travelling in an arc - yes? Are there any measurements of forces being applied across the shaft (by good or bad players), and their magnitude?

Also, do the arms extend post impact? Or are they extended by the momentum of the club?

In one of the first two videos Michael Jacobs did on the release he gave some actual measurements by different level golfers. I can't remember which one though.

 

[Kevin Shields]

There was some good debate in this area as well as some data to back up certain assertions. I'm sure it will be in the video. Seems like a good stocking stuffer

 

[birly-shirly]

OK. I've bought most of Brian's videos and been happy with each one. But let's just say that stocking stuffing this year is likely to be "price sensitive".

 

[Todd Dugan]

Besides the fact that the force at the shaft has been measured, not guessed at by looking at pictures, If they didn't continue to straighten their trail arm they couldn't keep up with the club and would finish with one handed follow throughs.

That doesn't explain why "chicken-wingers" don't have one-handed follow-throughs.

But look, I'm just saying that handle/hands moving up, relative to the ground, does not mean handle/hands moving inward toward the player. When the right arm is straightening, the hand is moving outward, away from the body center. You don't need some force-measuring machine to see this.

 

[leon]

That doesn't explain why "chicken-wingers" don't have one-handed follow-throughs.

But look, I'm just saying that handle/hands moving up, relative to the ground, does not mean handle/hands moving inward toward the player. When the right arm is straightening, the hand is moving outward, away from the body center. You don't need some force-measuring machine to see this.

Todd, not saying this is correct as I don't recall seeing any treatment of the right hand. But given that it is the coupling point that is moving up is it not conceivable that the right hand, being below the coupling point on the grip, could still be moving down into impact?