Thread Video Swing Analysis has to go....

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puttmaster said:
Read Brian's message. Don't know how it could be more clear.
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It really depends on how you view this site. I never thought it was about money for a second. I think Brian sees threads with video in them and many people offering advice that maybe do not belong offering advice. When he sees bad advice given he may feel like it reflects poorly on him and his staff. So in a round about way it may be about his reputation which ultimately may reflect on his earning potential.

If teaching was all about money for Brian he would charge way more. And he could get it. If you have taken a lesson from him you know he is "all in" with each and every student. That kind of passion does not come from money.
 
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Pete J

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Kevin Shields said:
So by that I suppose you think it is about money?
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No-I assumed it meant that advice given by non-BM certified instructors is sometimes bad and could be damaging to the site "brand". I don't understand what the difference is between non-BM certified instructors commenting on a written question vs a posted video. I guess it's just over my head.
 
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Brian Manzella

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It is this simple:

Non-experts make better suggestions about the golf swing after READING about what the golfer's problems are, or looking at TrackMan numbers, then they do looking at video.

Folks can PM or email any of us to look at their swings.
 
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Brian Manzella

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Pete J said:
No-I assumed it meant that advice given by non-BM certified instructors is sometimes bad and could be damaging to the site "brand". I don't understand what the difference is between non-BM certified instructors commenting on a written question vs a posted video. I guess it's just over my head.
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There are quite a few teachers on this web site who are not "Manzella Instructors" who are great at looking at a posted video and making a comment.

I will start to designate more of them as such, a Distinguished Fellow.

No videos posted. PM and eMail only.
 
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lia41985 said:
This ain't some middle-handicapper's wet dream piss-poor forum to educate golfers in the fine art of witnessing a mid-life crisis. This ain't some Twitter account from some dude tweeting to his twerps about his frustrations at waiting in the check-in line at Walmart.

This is a golf instructional forum by and for people who love golf and love it so much they want to maintain a high-standard befitting the endeavor that is a journey through this great game.
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A magnificent turn of a phrase. I doff my chapeau to you, sir.
 
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eric54 said:
Whilst i understand Brians point, as a resident of the UK, i do not have access to Brian, Kevin etc as an instructor. Posting a video of my swing on the forum is the only way i can get feedback from them. I would love to have proper lessons from them but sure you appreciate its not geographically possible
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Eric, at least one of the Manzella instructors has a program whereby you send him various videos of your swing and he will analyze your videos with you over Skype for a very reasonable fee. If you want more info, PM me.
 
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Rick Dandy

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Brian Manzella said:
There is nothing in the whole world that gives me the heebie-jeebies more or faster than watching a bad golf lesson.

When you spend basically your whole life trying to become the best in the world at something, that "something" is usually something you care a lot about.

I care a lot about teaching golf, and helping golfers play better.

I gave one the best lessons of all-time yesterday by getting down to what really caused this particular golfer's issues. And doing it with the idea of what exactly that golfer could do, and couldn't do.

A golf lesson is a lot like a date. You meet, exchange pleasantries, and go off to your destination. Sometimes that destination is known, but some of the very best dates are just a ride waiting for something to jump out at you. Once a destination is determined, you head off in the direction of it, very mindful of not doing or saying something to ruin the whole date before it even really got going. Etc.

About a dozen times on this forum, over the almost 10 years we have been on the air, I've banned folks putting their swings up in a thread and looking for help.

I am going to do that again real soon. But this time, with a sticky we will dutifully enforce.

I am not against folks looking for help with their swings on the forum. They can ask all the questions they'd like. They can even post up their TrackMan numbers. BUT NO VIDEO.

I read these threads and I want to vomit.

Even though half of the advice is very good-to-great, the other half is so bad, It makes me want to run away from the site and go read MacRumors.

In a game where there more teachers than instructors, where there are websites with non-teachers giving out awards, most folks are just NOT cut out for it. I have a LOT of golf "talent." I played D1 college golf, and a whole bunch of other stuff since. Yesterday, on a golf course on Long Island I had never seen before, without a round for a score under my belt since January, I birdied two 220 yard+ par threes with tap-ins, and made an eagle.

I also had 5 three putts and a whole barrel full of dumb mistakes I've been making since I was 15.

Tour player—NOT!

You have to know your limitations in this life.

But on golf instruction websites, and apparently at every driving range in the world, there is someone who THINKS they know what you should do.

No.

Not close.

You might hurt somebody.

No more videos. Ask questions, all you want. Video exposes the semi-informed. On a site like this, where I've smartened up thousands—friends and enemies alike—you can get some REALLY good advice from a succinct paragraph about your trouble.

You can post up a video of scratch player, in the middle of a great round, striping every shot, and some yahoo will talk about some perceived flaw.

If you have a swing problem, and you want help, we have over a dozen Manzella Instructors who can help. Send me or one of them your video, you can work it out from there.

Thanks,

BManz
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Well said, Brian.

"The journey is better than the inn." ~ Cervantes
 
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Walt

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Whats the big deal? You can still post video to other sites. There really are other instructors who can help. I think the instructors here are great but being in the top 100 still means there are at least 99 others who might have a clue about helping you. My game has improved from the info here but not everything Brian says has helped me personally. You really have to embrace the Manzella philosophy of doing what works for you as an individual.
 
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Brian Manzella

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Walt,

Apparently you don't understand....we are welcoming videos in PMs and emails, just not on the forum.

We are NOT charging to take a look.

We do not want folks coming here and getting BAD info—that's it.

Understand now?
 
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ZAP

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I think there is going to be a segment of people who will never get it. Or else they already have their mind made up and no matter what you say they will insist it is about money.
 
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Brian Manzella

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This forum has been a big part of my life for 9 and half years.

You aren't going to put up monthly numbers like these below, unless you have some kind of a clue of why folks are here.

It ain't for a 15-handicappers putting up a swing video so that other 15's can tell him he is coming over the top.

If you have a problem with your game, go ahead and start a post. It might wind up being a well-read thread full of good ideas for all. No video.





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Walt

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Hi Brian, I understand that you are okay with PMs and e-mails. I was saying that if someone really wants to post a video and have anyone give feedback there are plenty of sites where they can still do that. Some people also might hesitate to send a personal message. It becomes more like a relationship with the feeling of reciprocity.
 
lia41985

lia41985

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Walt said:
I was saying that if someone really wants to post a video and have anyone give feedback there are plenty of sites where they can still do that.
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Maybe this well help you think about it: there are places that serve Bumble Bee to those without shirt and shoes but this is an establishment that serves the tartare.
 
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Rick Dandy

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Brian, his website and all my fellow Academy Instructors have been in a permanent state of Beta.

Through the lightweight helping that we do for each other, in technology and advancements and information, and through our reciprocal alliances, we are better at navigating the golf world and give each other a way to be better Professionals and have a competitive edge.

One thing we are interested in is increasing the odds and probability of students living a better golfing life.

Some have had break out opportunities and some have gotten back the gift of a game that they love.

The necessity of overlaps in relationships is somehow overlooked, but in the end it is what matters to you, is the reason you log in.
 
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