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Is it his putter or does his mental game just kick into overdrive and his competition is left sitting there with thier mouths open. As I am posting this message Tiger has won 4 holes in a row and has a 1 up lead, putter sure, but I would guess JB is wondering if he should visit therapsit at his time and learn to develop some mental "balls".
 
Haney

The announcers mentioned that Haney was with Tiger this week. Was it the Haney jinx for the first 13 holes? Then, Tiger worked the "Jinx" off his back and took over.

I wasn't watching/analyzing his swing. So, I don't know if his swing changed.

Its below zero windchill and less than 10 degrees so I was napping in my warm chair as the telecast was going!!!!!!
 
He'd be in about the same place relative to any other tour player "without THEIR putter".

No... I take that back. The "other players" don't quite have the intimidation factor... so he'd be well past those who don't "have their putter".
 
The announcers mentioned that Haney was with Tiger this week. Was it the Haney jinx for the first 13 holes? Then, Tiger worked the "Jinx" off his back and took over.

I wasn't watching/analyzing his swing. So, I don't know if his swing changed.

Its below zero windchill and less than 10 degrees so I was napping in my warm chair as the telecast was going!!!!!!

Haney is just up the road from me. I wonder if I could get some of that "Haney Jinx" working for me??!!

I think I might take it.
 
watching the match play and wondering where would this guy be without his putter...?:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

This is why Tiger is so good. His only real weakness is his driving accuracy. Fairway woods, long irons, med/short irons, short game, and putting are all huge strengths. So if his swing is off one day, he can rely on his short game/putting and vice versa. He has so many strengths that its improbably that he will have days where nothing works for him. Putting is almost half of the game. There are alot of players that make careers out of being good putters and mediocre ball strikers, Tiger isn't one of them.
 
Well............putting aside............obviously the rest of his game is normally very good. One of best (maybe the best) all time here...

But seriously...........talking about TODAY...............the guy made 4 bombs in a row.....and to say it like it is:

.......flying back home to his wife is exactly where he'd be if it weren't for his putter today.

(TODAY)

But that's not what happened........and that's the way she goes. We have seen putting displays from him before right?

(so easy Tiger fans)

Is it his putter or does his mental game just kick into overdrive and his competition is left sitting there with thier mouths open. As I am posting this message Tiger has won 4 holes in a row and has a 1 up lead, putter sure, but I would guess JB is wondering if he should visit therapsit at his time and learn to develop some mental "balls".

Why? Do you think he "choked"? I didn't see the round BTW.

How did JB do on the last 4 or 5 holes? I know Eldrick drained four putts in and around 20+ feet in a row. (birdie, birdie, birdie, eagle)

And I know JB didn't drain the tying putt on the last hole...........but otherwise.........was there anything he could have done? (at that point)

I've only watched the highlights.....but he seemed pretty composed post-round. Maybe even a little standoffish.....which I thought could be a good sign.

(what I mean is he didn't sound defeated)

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As for Haney I will stick to Brian's forum lol....:D
 
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Well............putting aside............obviously the rest of his game is very good. One of best (maybe the best) all time here...

But seriously people...........talking about today...............the guy made 4 bombs in a row.....and to say it like it is:

.......flying back home to his wife is exactly where he'd be if it weren't for his putter today.

(TODAY)

But that's not what happened........and that's the way she goes. We have seen putting displays from him before right?

(so easy Tiger fans)



Why? Do you think he "choked"? I didn't see the round BTW.

How did JB do on the last 4 or 5 holes? I know Eldrick drained four putts in and around 20+ feet in a row. (birdie, birdie, birdie, eagle)

And I know JB didn't drain the tying putt on the last hole...........but otherwise.........was there anything he could have done? (at that point)



Let's see..... could he have done anything differently? 2 up with 5 to go. JB plays the last 5 even par... Tiger plays it 5 under. Maybe he could have mixed in a birdie or two?

Not like he didn't just win a couple of weeks ago. More of the "Tiger effect" at work, no matter how he does it.
 
I said I didn't watch the round Robbo.

Thanks for the info.

(watchin the replay on TGC right now BTW)
 
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I said I didn't watch the round Robbo.

Thanks for the info.

(watchin the replay on TGC right now BTW)

No worries Birdie..... I think Tiger "gives" him 13 by knocking it way into the junk...... looked like his same old "over-acceleration problem" off the tee. JB returns the favor, but el Tigre was in rare form and once the momentum shifted you could almost "smell" victory.

I don't care how he gets it done, he simply gets it done.
 
The putt on 17 was a tough one. Truly a jaw dropper. I wonder how many he could make in a row, but I guess that's irrelevant. I was right off the green and got a good look; it was tricky. As far as his driving, after the round he hit a dozen or so drives and they were good except one. Very solid swing, but he wasn't hitting the ball superhuman hard, IMO. Perhaps for good reason.

A comment about Mickelson - he must have lost 25 lbs. of flab at the minimum. Shortened his backswing considerably and looks very competitive, the best I've seen him.

Comment about VJ - on Tuesday in practice, he was hitting the ball like cr#p, IMO. Left right, left right & it wasn't intentional. However, I believe he won his match today. Talked to a guy who is a relative of VJ's caddy and he told me he thought VJ was hitting the ball really well on Tuesday. Go figure.
 
JB come on hit already!

Is it me or is JB's pre-shot routine very annoying? It's difficult to root for a guy that won't even begin to assess his shot until his opponent has already hit---especially when the guy always has to wait because he’s the longest hitter in the game. His pre-shot drills wouldn’t be so bad if he were ready to go when it’s his turn. This sort of gamesmanship is bad for the game!
 
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Is it me or is JB's pre-shot routine very annoying? It's difficult to root for a guy that won't even begin to access his shot until his opponent has already hit---especially when the guy always has to wait because he’s the longest hitter in the game. His pre-shot drills wouldn’t be so bad if he were ready to go when it’s his turn. This sort of gamesmanship is bad for the game!

I've never understood the player that refuses to start his routine until it's "his turn". We have a guy who plays with our crowd regularly and was the same way. He had a rep for being quite slow. I finally just told him about it and he quit doing it (and is a decent speed player now)! Sometimes I wonder if JB realizes it!

How many times did you see JB "hesitate" before stepping in to hit his putt or shot? It was almost like a stutter-stepping action. Looked quite unsure on more than one occasion.
 

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We can thank all these goofy "psychologists" for this. People no longer know how to just hit the ball, now we have to go through routines, finding our happy place and whatever else.

1..Look at your ball/lie/target
2. Practice swing (or not)
3. Pull the trigger

This all out to be done in about 10 - 15 seconds.
 
The putt on 17 was a tough one. Truly a jaw dropper. I wonder how many he could make in a row, but I guess that's irrelevant. I was right off the green and got a good look; it was tricky. As far as his driving, after the round he hit a dozen or so drives and they were good except one. Very solid swing, but he wasn't hitting the ball superhuman hard, IMO. Perhaps for good reason.

A comment about Mickelson - he must have lost 25 lbs. of flab at the minimum. Shortened his backswing considerably and looks very competitive, the best I've seen him.

Comment about VJ - on Tuesday in practice, he was hitting the ball like cr#p, IMO. Left right, left right & it wasn't intentional. However, I believe he won his match today. Talked to a guy who is a relative of VJ's caddy and he told me he thought VJ was hitting the ball really well on Tuesday. Go figure.
excellent post! keep us updated
 
We can thank all these goofy "psychologists" for this. People no longer know how to just hit the ball, now we have to go through routines, finding our happy place and whatever else.

1..Look at your ball/lie/target
2. Practice swing (or not)
3. Pull the trigger

This all out to be done in about 10 - 15 seconds.

I'm curious as to the opinion of the Manzella Academy on this one. Is there any recommended pre-shot routine or process that Brian, Jim, Mike, Tom, or anyone else recommend? I'm sure we'd all like to hear it.

Should I start a new thread?
 
Hehe.....flab.....

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Ya JB takes a pretty long time with all those practice swings. Dunno why he would need to do so many. Furyk is kinda the same way. For him he always wants to get his alignment just right.

I agree tho.....no reason why you can't get most or all of your figuring done while the other guy goes. Then it shouldn't take as long from there. For me, I always seem to do worse if I take long.....tension sets in. And usually if I've taken super long it's for a reason. (indecision) Now if I can't come to a decision on something I go with my first instinct. It seems to be most often right.

I can't even relate to the guys who take a super long time and can still play well that way. Amazes me. All I get is indecision and more anxiety/tension.

BTW ya VJ has been struggling for a while eh. (relative to his ability anyhow)

Robot Hank said:
I don't care how he gets it done, he simply gets it done.

It's true. It's probably the way Tiger likes it too. (tho not always that close of course) Bottom-line oriented, right...
 
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