Too much L to R with NHA
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Kevin Shields
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Where is the ball starting in relation to your feet?
curtisj76
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It was going a little right and then more right (and high). I just hit some more but this time the ball flight was low and straight, but too low. I just can't win...
PS Was trying the same swing both times except this last time (low and straight) I was trying a steeper shoulder turn and not so flat of a turn.
PS Was trying the same swing both times except this last time (low and straight) I was trying a steeper shoulder turn and not so flat of a turn.
Kevin Shields
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I'd go with your path more left to offset some of that downward attack.
Jim Kobylinski
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Sounds like your ball postion is too far back....move it up some and don't change anything and then see where the ball goes.
curtisj76
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I'm glad you mentioned it (the downward attack). I know in Soft Draw, Brian talked about how he doesn't like the shaft leaning forward so much anymore. Does that apply with NHA as well?
curtisj76
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For NHA, do you like the ball off your left heel? Thanks
I don't quite get this.
The more downward you swing, the more left you need to swing. That I get.
But if the ball is moving in a fade or slice then your face is too open compared to path, right? Isn't it a comparison of path to face that tells you how much a shot draws or fades?
I have this same problem when I try to to use NHA2 to hit a soft fade. I can't quite adjust the face enough and tend to over-fade (slice) sometimes. I do like the feel of the NHA2 - shake-the sugar - release when I am overdrawing. Like Curtis, I tend to overbake NHA2 left-to-right when I experiment with it.
Kevin Shields
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Its just a hunch. It sounds to me like the plane line could be straightish or maybe slightly left and there's plenty of downward, but with an open face making the path perhaps a little right, sqeeze fading the ball.
For some, swinging more left with a higher right side (for those fighting BPS) helps turn the face down more. I"ve seen plenty of people try to fade the ball hitting down with an open face and it just flairs with too much curve. They forget how much left you need.
For some, swinging more left with a higher right side (for those fighting BPS) helps turn the face down more. I"ve seen plenty of people try to fade the ball hitting down with an open face and it just flairs with too much curve. They forget how much left you need.
Jim Kobylinski
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Agreed; they also forget how much more the face has to be closed for how left they are swinging.
That's the hard part for me when i try NHA. I get scared closing the face THAT MUCH when swinging the club that much left.
Jim Kobylinski
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It's just the D-plane niblick
Practice on the range and try to purposely hit pull hooks with the NHA type pattern; then just slowly let the face open up until instead of going left of left it goes left but then comes back right. Sometimes i find that when i introduce a new ball flight to someone you have to over exaggerate the ball flight so that they know it's possible and get rid of that mental fear. Then we just tweak it to where it needs to be.
Kevin Shields
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Understandable. its hard to believe how much you need to turn the face down to the ground while swinging left to hit straight shots or fades.(i forget sometime because of what's natural for me)
jenhaoyen
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whenever I do that, I would have a high draw....I really want to learn how to hit a nice soft fade.
It's just the D-plane niblick
Practice on the range and try to purposely hit pull hooks with the NHA type pattern; then just slowly let the face open up until instead of going left of left it goes left but then comes back right. Sometimes i find that when i introduce a new ball flight to someone you have to over exaggerate the ball flight so that they know it's possible and get rid of that mental fear. Then we just tweak it to where it needs to be.
Oh, I get it intellectually. But as a former pull-hooker, it's just hard to do!
I am going to get to do a little experimenting with this tomorrow....
cmartingolf
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Kevin Shields
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As Hogan said..."you're not doing it right"
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