TrackMan: Learning Tool of Major Champions

[Richie3Jack]

Well, I used Trackman today. And...it was awesome. I had been working on my swing and 'swinging left' and started to see some swinging left the past few days. I was guessing about what my numbers would look like. I figured something like this:

+2 face angle
-1* HSP
+3* path

Instead, I found that with the irons my stats looked like this:

-2.5* attack angle
0* face angle
-4* HSP
-2* path

My attack angles were a bit shallower than the PGA Tour averages. I think I only hit one shot where the attack angle was steeper than the PGA Tour average.

I consider myself a really good driver of the golf ball, just not overly long. Now I understand why. With the driver, I zeroed out everything. attack angle, path, face angle and HSP.

The irons looked straight at first, but after seeing the Trackman numbers and focusing more on what the flight was doing, I could see the slight pull-fade with those. What I found was that with the irons, the clubface was well aligned, but my body needed to go sligthly right of where I typically aim. My stance is more like the Hogan stance diagram in 5 Lessons.

Anyway, I only used a small portion of Trackman and really discovered the truth of my swing and in just one 1-hour session I know a lot more 'truth' about my swing and what direction to go with it.






3JACK

 

[jeffreycharris]

Cool post. . . thanks for sharing.

 

[SJO]

I am going on a Trackman next week, what do I want to see with my irons. Which bits should I be looking at and what should they say for zeroing?

 

[Richie3Jack]

I am going on a Trackman next week, what do I want to see with my irons. Which bits should I be looking at and what should they say for zeroing?

You don't have to zero out a thing, if you don't want to.

Kenny Perry could beat me six ways to Sunday, and he's not zeroing out a thing.

So...IF, you feel like you play your best with a draw or a slice, the 'zeroeing' out part isn't really important, although you probably want to keep you clubface angle close to zero if YOU *want* to hit a small fade or a small draw.

My stock shot has usually been a pretty straight shot for a long time and occasionally I could play really well with a draw. But usually after drawing the ball, it would eventually get out of hand. So I wanted to get back to hitting it dead straight at the target. And I've worked on my swing so it would hit the ball dead straight. There are different ways to do it, but when I got on Trackman, I found that I was actually hitting a tiny fade with my irons.

I would be interested in what Kevin and Brian and others have to say about this, but I think *initially* on Trackman you would pretty much want to know your:

- attack angle
- path
- face
- horizontal swing plane
- spin axis

But when we talk about 'zeroing out', we are talking about the path and the face. But those numbers I listed above give a really good idea of what's going on at impact.






3JACK

 

[mb6606]

Well, I used Trackman today. And...it was awesome. I had been working on my swing and 'swinging left' and started to see some swinging left the past few days. I was guessing about what my numbers would look like. I figured something like this:

+2 face angle
-1* HSP
+3* path

Instead, I found that with the irons my stats looked like this:

-2.5* attack angle
0* face angle
-4* HSP
-2* path

My attack angles were a bit shallower than the PGA Tour averages. I think I only hit one shot where the attack angle was steeper than the PGA Tour average.

I consider myself a really good driver of the golf ball, just not overly long. Now I understand why. With the driver, I zeroed out everything. attack angle, path, face angle and HSP.

The irons looked straight at first, but after seeing the Trackman numbers and focusing more on what the flight was doing, I could see the slight pull-fade with those. What I found was that with the irons, the clubface was well aligned, but my body needed to go sligthly right of where I typically aim. My stance is more like the Hogan stance diagram in 5 Lessons.

Anyway, I only used a small portion of Trackman and really discovered the truth of my swing and in just one 1-hour session I know a lot more 'truth' about my swing and what direction to go with it.

3JACK

Driver should be hit on the upswing - I am not sure zero's are ideal for the driver - maybe Brian can comment.

 

[mgranato]

You don't have to zero out a thing, if you don't want to.

Kenny Perry could beat me six ways to Sunday, and he's not zeroing out a thing.

So...IF, you feel like you play your best with a draw or a slice, the 'zeroeing' out part isn't really important, although you probably want to keep you clubface angle close to zero if YOU *want* to hit a small fade or a small draw.

My stock shot has usually been a pretty straight shot for a long time and occasionally I could play really well with a draw. But usually after drawing the ball, it would eventually get out of hand. So I wanted to get back to hitting it dead straight at the target. And I've worked on my swing so it would hit the ball dead straight. There are different ways to do it, but when I got on Trackman, I found that I was actually hitting a tiny fade with my irons.

I would be interested in what Kevin and Brian and others have to say about this, but I think *initially* on Trackman you would pretty much want to know your:

- attack angle
- path
- face
- horizontal swing plane
- spin axis

But when we talk about 'zeroing out', we are talking about the path and the face. But those numbers I listed above give a really good idea of what's going on at impact.






3JACK

That's pretty much what I pay attention to. When you combine those parameters with the resulting actual ball flight you'll also start gaining insight into exactly where on the face impact occurs and your tendencies for that spot.

 

[Richie3Jack]

Driver should be hit on the upswing - I am not sure zero's are ideal for the driver - maybe Brian can comment.

Hitting up on the driver and hitting consistently well is easier said than done. I do believe it can be done, but I also believe that it's something that some will just struggle doing consistently and accurately. The PGA Tour average is about -1* downward.

It's much like 'zeroing out' the path and the face. Depends on what works best for you.





3JACK