Trying something new, any thoughts?

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Update- went to the range today with my Swing Speed Radar. After warmup, first driver was 106. Hit about 10 drivers all between 104-107. I then tried full power swings and could get to 112 mph, but I lost clubface control.

I then slowed to about 80%ish power and hit almost every driver 105-107. Afew crept up to 109-110, a few dropped to 100-101. Average was 106-107.

I'm enthused considering I was in the low to mid 90s in th recent past!

I did learn that if I swing closer to full out, I need to incorporate a slight twistaway to get the club square at impact. At 80-85%, I don't need it. I'm guessing it's just timing and my hands aren't "educated" at the higher speeds.
 
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Jim Kobylinski said:
over acceleration is easier to see than to diagnose over a forum. essentially over accel is you simply trying to add to much to a swing instead of letting the club work like a club
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Jim..What do you think is the biggest culprit that leads to over acceleration?

This problem creeps into my swing with the fairway woods. Even when I focus I still want to "crank it up" on these shots. Any thoughts?
 
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Leek said:
OK- Frank Viola, a noted TOUR quality clubfitter (he sells and fits tour issue equipment, he's expensive but a good value) suggested a Swing Speed Radar to measure club head speed. I bought a Speed + Tempo unit . As an aside, these boards are great for discounts on stuff we want. I got a very nice discount on the SwingSpeed workout stuff as a golfwrx.com member, now a hook up with a discount on the Radar device.

Anyway, today after 3 weeks of doing the drills on the DVD that came with the SwingSpeed; lots of one armed pivot driven swings with each arm, also some conditioning & strength drills and of course full swings. On the swings, I worked on what Brian suggested I work on in my last couple lessons, swinging more left and maintaining a flat left wrist.

I went to the range to monitor my results. I knew something was up when I was seeing mid-90s with my 6 iron during warmup. I don't what my 6 iron speed was before, but my driver was mid-90s (sometimes low 90s) three weeks ago.

Then the driver- first swing- good contact 104! I then made a few swings that were NOT pretty- 98 and 100. Now, I'm pretty enthused- what happens if I swing OUT OF MY SHOES??? Take a couple big cuts- 104-107, but bad contact. Excitement is over, just normal swings. They stay from 101-105. Average is about 103 over 25-30 swings. That's about 8-9 mph in 3 weeks.

I don't know what to expect, will I stay there? Will I gain more speed? I don't know, but my goal was to gain 5 mph in a few months, and I'm past that.

I love this device and training program! There you go Jim- Is this from improved pivot or more strength or both?
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I also tried the SSR and the TT for about two months and saw similar speed increases of 10 -14 mph. However when I tried to do that on the course I was irradict. I did not feel as though I was sustaining the lag because even though I was faster the shots felt less solid. Perhaps I was reverting to flipping because of over accelerating. I went back to my controlled swing with less speed but more solid impact and my scores improved immediately. Any thoughts? Should I have stuck with it longer?
 
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I'm just using SSR as a monitor, not a training device. The trainig devices I use are:

a weighted club system called Swingspeed, this is NOT the radar device
Graphite shafts with a grip on them, no head
My regular driver.

The SSR is just a way to quantify IF I make any progress. Shoot, this is WORK. I honestly don't want to do the work if I can't measure RESULTS.

I think there are some valuable additional uses for the SSR though:
I don't know about you, but I get these ideas that if I do some change it will lead to a longer drive when I want one. The SSR can tell me if I really do gain any speed with that idea. (By the way, for me swinging HARDER often leads to lower swing speeds; the only harder swing that leads to max speeds is concentrating on hip speed and axis tilt)

I've also found that if I measure my time to impact for good results, it often can become a "guidepost." Meaning that tempo will lead to good repeatable results. I can then use the tempo measurement to dial in that tempo.
 
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