turning clubface open on takeaway

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Bronco Billy

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NOT at the Top.. To the Top.. Ie. Twistaway ALL the way UP which Cups the Wrist...

tongzilla said:
what makes you think he used the TwistAway at the top? It doesn't look like it since the shaft is slightly laid off, and his left wrist is flat to slightly cupped.
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Bronco Billy

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ALL Natural Players Say This... Big Jack, Moe, the Dentist's wife, etc....

cmartingolf said:
I think Hogan incorporated other moves in this swing (consciously or not) that prevented the shaft and face from looking unorthodox even though he tried to roll it as open and as fast as he could.

Me too

Moe told me his club head and face stayed on the target line for 40" back and 40" through.... Might have felt that, but it sure wasn't happening.
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Bronco Billy

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Hogan's Swing is Trash.....

tongzilla said:
Bronco, you said: "Hogan Rolled the Face Open and Counter Rotated the Face Square at the Same Time..."

Please explain.
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Hogan had Essentially a Two Piece Flat BackSwing which is Against All Modern Techniques..... Hogan Was Wired for These Transgressions... It is NOT Worth Any Ones Time Studying or Copying these Flaws.....Have a Great Day With Your New Found Knowledge.....:)
 
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Brian Manzella

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Billy,

I am glad you have developed a theory which make you feel that the "TwistAway" is the central key movement.

For most golfers, you are very correct.

But, your posting style—using quotes only and titles, too much bold, too much color, too condescending a signature, is disrupting the forum.

We are about to make some changes around here, and we would like you to be a valued member.

But, this is my forum, and my website, and their are rules, and their is a boss—me, so please try to use normal posting, and maybe start a thread about your ideas instead of hijacking others.

Hope you understand,

Bmanz
 
tongzilla

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Brian is a nice guy. Unorthodox behavior may get one banned in other forums.

Brian, got any comments on this thread?
 
curtisj76

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I have a net in my garage and have hit thousands of balls in it the past few years. The best I've ever hit was when I was opening that clubface big time on the backswing.
 
birdie_man

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tongzilla said:
I personally think it's the latter (no real evidence...just a gut feeling). I think Hogan incorporated other moves in this swing (consciously or not) that prevented the shaft and face from looking unorthodox even though he tried to roll it as open and as fast as he could.
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(If he was actually opening it 100% as much as he can)

What move(s) would have had this effect?

And:

(If he was actually opening it 100% as much as he can)

The only way he could have drawn it (I think) is if he used a (NSA backswing-style) twistaway in his backswing.

Was his wrist was flatter when he hit a draw?
 
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birdie_man

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Do you know or are you theorizing?

I have no idea what moves could do this.

(I edited my previous post BTW)

(I presume you just saw the original)
 
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birdie_man said:
(If he was actually opening it 100% as much as he can)

The only way he could have drawn it (I think) is if he used a (NSA backswing-style) twistaway in his backswing.

Was his wrist was flatter when he hit a draw?
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I guess he coulda changed his grip too eh.

Or used "The Nicklaus Method"...

(i.e. turn it closed at address)

I think I heard he did have a flatter left wrist when he drew it though...
 
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dbl

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Birdieman,

You mean..Hogan opening his club on the backswing to the plane..looking orthodox...or at the top..or where?

By the way, with the face to the plane and a cupped wrist, that is actually not all that open - he gets to a nice pretty normal FLW normal at impact, as we see.
 
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In a golf digest interview in the late 1980's Hogan talked about this rotation, but also discussed a downswing where the left arm rotated "like a baseball bat". He said you have to do it with the left arm, not the right, which is an error poorer players make. With the club this open in the backswing, he had to turn the sweetspot off plane to square the club. Hogan, even if he swung flat, was not underplane, which copying his swing will lead to. Kevin Shields, in a different thread, discusses hitting a driver from the knees to cure underplane issues. Hogan's downswing comments are an important ingredient to avoid the underplane plague.
 
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Kevin Shields

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If you can hit a driver straight from your knees and even take a little divot ahead of the ball you'll discover everything you need to cure below plane issues.
 
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