Underplane Downswing Fixes

[Kevin Shields]

If you have 2 or 3 degrees of axis tilt at address then your left side is long and stretcged a bit. If you center your spine at the top your left side will shrink or bend. You have to maintain that in the transition to stay on top of the plane.

 

[LiftOff]

If you have 2 or 3 degrees of axis tilt at address then your left side is long and stretcged a bit. If you center your spine at the top your left side will shrink or bend. You have to maintain that in the transition to stay on top of the plane.

Kevin:

"If you center your spine"...............Do you mean by this, loose your axis tilt?

"You have to maintain that in"......... Do you mean you have to maintain axis tilt in the transition?

Thanks,

 

[Kevin Shields]

Yeah, you lose your tilt in the backswing. And no, i dont mean maintain axis tilt in the transition because you have none at the top. Your left side needs to shrink at the top. Underplaners tend to strech the lead side immediately in the downswing, shallowing their swing too much.

 

[wdking]

How you do that?

Yeah, you lose your tilt in the backswing. And no, i dont mean maintain axis tilt in the transition because you have none at the top. Your left side needs to shrink at the top. Underplaners tend to strech the lead side immediately in the downswing, shallowing their swing too much.

Doubled, that sounds like me. Brian and MJ wanted me to feel that stretch in the downswing by moving the tailbone in front of the neckbone. Sounds like a recipe for underplane downswing. Could you elaborate further?
Thanks.

 

[curtisj76]

Yeah, sounds like me as well. I don't understand "Your left side needs to shrink at the top". If the hips go forward and your upper body stays back that seems like a stretch to me. To shrink I would think your hips would either have to go back or your upper body would have to go forward, neither of those sound right (at least to me) however.

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

Hips go away from target, spine stays centered-ish, you create left side bend. Think Monty

 

[Kevin Shields]

Yeah, sounds like me as well. I don't understand "Your left side needs to shrink at the top". If the hips go forward and your upper body stays back that seems like a stretch to me. To shrink I would think your hips would either have to go back or your upper body would have to go forward, neither of those sound right (at least to me) however.

Thats exactly what has to happen...both.

 

[curtisj76]

What happened to the "get the tailbone in front of the neckbone"?? I'm lost. On my way to youtube for monty.

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

What happened to the "get the tailbone in front of the neckbone"?? I'm lost. On my way to youtube for monty.

Hookers and swing out to right field-ers don't need that as much...they create too much thats why they hook and swing too far to the right.

 

[curtisj76]

Jim, I have a clip of Monty in V1 right now. What exactly should I be looking at? Sorry to be a pest. Thanks

 

[pecky987]

Jim, I have a clip of Monty in V1 right now. What exactly should I be looking at? Sorry to be a pest. Thanks

at the top, from face on, see how his lower spine is more away from the target then his head

 

[jbrunk]

The key to my game

is the left side bend. Brian showed me this in Louisville and it is magic for a hooker. My only problem is I can't remember all the details of the drill we worked on so it has been harder to maintain it. It kind of helps me to 'crunch' my left side abs on the downswing.

I am anxiously awaiting the mini video.

 

[wedgeplay]

I am anxiously awaiting the mini video.[/QUOTE]



Me Too !

 

[jbrunk]

Bump

 

[niblick1]

Brian talked about this last night in the live show, including what he showed jbrunk in louisville. He described the problem, I think, as adding your tilt to early in the downswing and that you had to work to not stretch your left side until you get much closer to impact if you have the jbrunk type of underplane action. And he demonstrated it while standing on a couple chairs! Download the video when it comes out.

 

[puttmad]

Just a thought here...

Whatever happens on the left side of the body, is a counterpoint to what happens on the right....
So for those of you who are having difficulty understanding some of the stuff above, take a view from the other side...

A "right fielder" tends to compress the right side too early on the downswing (i.e. bring the right shoulder under more)....
Compressing the right side WHILE maintaining the swing center position just forward of your 7th cevical bone, has the natural side effect of stretching the left side (think of your shoulders as being spokes on a wheel, with your neck being the central axle, so when one spoke goes down, the other comes up...and when the shoulder comes up rapidly, so the left side stretches....

Another way of "not stretching" the left side too early is simply to stop compressing the right side too early.

My own "cure" for this was simply to modify the right shoulder track from the top, i.e. more outwards than downwards...This stifles the right side compression (or left side stretching),,,it also stops all the fats you get with early right side/shoulder under....

 

[birdie_man]

The Magic Line!

 

[jbrunk]

Brian talked about this last night in the live show, including what he showed jbrunk in louisville. He described the problem, I think, as adding your tilt to early in the downswing and that you had to work to not stretch your left side until you get much closer to impact if you have the jbrunk type of underplane action. And he demonstrated it while standing on a couple chairs! Download the video when it comes out.

Thanks for the heads up. I couldn't make it last night. I will download the vid.

 

[jenhaoyen]

Thanks for the heads up. I couldn't make it last night. I will download the vid.

which one was this..?

 

[jbrunk]

Manzella Live number 3 I think.