quote:Originally posted by tourdeep
At the top of the downswing, the swinger shoulders tends to be steeper while hitter is flat w/respect to plane. The quickness and shoulder plane might be two areas determining whether one is a swinger or hitter?
Not necessarily. If you study the Basic Patterns for Hitting and Swinging (12-1 and 12-2), they both use the Turned Shoulder Plane Angle (10-6-B).
What you've described is an illusion. The further up the plane you go, the higher the hands will be, giving the impression that the plane angle has become steeper. And Swinger's take their hands back further (to the End location (10-21-C)).
quote:Originally posted by tourdeep
Are there acceptable TGM patterns where a swinger might have a flat shoulder turn? And a hitter having a steep shoulder turn?
Of course, you've got choices! A lot of Swingers subconsiously use a Double Shift (10-7-C). However, what you're talking here is the Shoulder Turn, and that should almost always be 'Flat'. See 10-13-B for definition of a 'Flat' Shoulder Turn.
