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mclare

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quote:Originally posted by Burner

Forget the ring on the finger - catch raindrops in the palm of the left hand.
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Catch rain drops at what point in follow through?

Wedding Rign Up at what point?

I'm not understanding either of these. Can you be more specific? Thanks,
 
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quote::Originally posted by rbaumgolf

wedding ring up (Burners insert: or catch raindrops) would be the same as watch face pointing down (on left hand) after impact and follow through.
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mclare,

Does this help?
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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Here, just look at this photo:

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TheHeat

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I think we have a winner.:)

quote:Originally posted by 6bee1dee

A flat left wrist at the end of the swing will have the ring facing the clouds- check it out. If the left wrist is bent at the end the end- it will face sideways. Is this it? Ring up to produce a flat left wrist at the end.
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Serious though, the wedding ring up thing may have been the best thing I took away from my lesson. Not only do you have to maintain a flat left wrist, but you have to rotate, rotate, rotate. As Brian said, you have to do many things right to accomplish this move.

The dribble the basketball against a wall behind you and down through impact also really helped me a lot.
 
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This move almost is the holy grail! I feel it is about the only swing thought I have and every shot is solid. One point- make sure that the body is rotating at the same time or you will have some wild hooks or pull hooks. I love to use this method to hit shots when I need a low hook around trees. I taught my wife how to do this also, the way it clicked for her was by doing the movement without the club. I had her stick her thumb up on the left hand and make sure it was pointing to the left on the followthrough. If you don't rotate the arm enough the thumb will point back at you. Thanks again Brian!

Mike
 
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O! I get it!

So in the pic. of you Brian....you are "wedding ring up"....but the kicker is that you have an arched left wrist still. If you did everything the same- but had a BENT left wrist- you would not be able to see the ring on your left hand ring finger.

Gotcha! Tis' in ye olde noggin' now.

-Paul
 
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Why not use a stronger left hand grip and then use 'less' of an aggressive roll of the forearms than a weaker grip requires? I would think that the 'smoother' the roll, the less one 'does' to get this position post impact, the better it would hold up under pressure?

Brian, why is the weaker left hand grip your choice vs. Ben's stronger left hand grip?

The stronger lead hand makes the roll easier to keep in Rhythm and Balance IMO. It is also the position your hand seeks naturally as it hangs at your side.
 
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Archie Swivel

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EdZ,

Wouldn't you think you could get more power from fully utilizing left arm rotation with a weak grip. This is why I think the term, "weak grip" is deceiving because it actually opens to door for you to get all you can out of left arm rotation and hit a stronger ball. With a "strong grip", you have to hold on to it a bit and thus you can not unleash the lion!

Arch
 
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TheHeat,

I'm having trouble visualising dribbling the ball against a wall behind you and through impact. Could you please elaborate a little more?

Thanks,
C21heel
 
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EdZ

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quote:Originally posted by Archie Swivel

EdZ,

Wouldn't you think you could get more power from fully utilizing left arm rotation with a weak grip. This is why I think the term, "weak grip" is deceiving because it actually opens to door for you to get all you can out of left arm rotation and hit a stronger ball. With a "strong grip", you have to hold on to it a bit and thus you can not unleash the lion!

Arch
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Only if your swing depends on speed, and less on mass, which requires 'doing' during the motion - even if that 'doing' is as 'much roll as possilbe' such that the weak grip is the 'limit' of your ability to rotate your lead forearm as far as possible - while maintaining the left arm flying wedge (club and shaft in line, hands ahead, hit down)

no doubt that transfer power is indeed, power, but the accuracy of that power depends more on the tempo of your loading and loading with one, and on your ability to rotate at the proper rpm's - keeping your hands and chest moving through together, while maintaining the 'wedges' - the tip of the triangle.
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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From what i noticed:

Stronger grip means you can't keep the left wrist FLAT after impact/follow through for as long as brian teaches otherwise it's FORE LEFT. It also "seems" to be less "mash."

Weaker is pretty much the opposite of what i said above, again from what i've noticed doing both.
 
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Setup at address with a bent left wrist....now go to fix....look at what flattening your wrist does to the clubface with that "weak" grip.

Now do the same thing with a strong grip....go from classic adjusted address to impact fix (flat left wrist)....the clubface will be more closed than it was the first time around (with a weaker grip).
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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quote:Originally posted by birdie_man

Setup at address with a bent left wrist....now go to fix....look at what flattening your wrist does to the clubface with that "weak" grip.

Now do the same thing with a strong grip....go from classic adjusted address to impact fix (flat left wrist)....the clubface will be more closed than it was the first time around (with a weaker grip).
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Birdie are you trying to convey something i'm not "getting."

I think we already said that a weaker left hand grip promotes a bigger "roll" of the left arm versus the smaller "roll" of a stronger left hand grip.

Not trying to be sarcastic or anything, just trying to see if i'm missing something.
 
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quote:Originally posted by jim_0068

quote:Originally posted by birdie_man

Setup at address with a bent left wrist....now go to fix....look at what flattening your wrist does to the clubface with that "weak" grip.

Now do the same thing with a strong grip....go from classic adjusted address to impact fix (flat left wrist)....the clubface will be more closed than it was the first time around (with a weaker grip).
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Birdie are you trying to convey something i'm not "getting."

I think we already said that a weaker left hand grip promotes a bigger "roll" of the left arm versus the smaller "roll" of a stronger left hand grip.

Not trying to be sarcastic or anything, just trying to see if i'm missing something.
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Nonono not something that -YOU- (specifically) are not geting.

I just discovered this (what I posted) a few weeks ago in my garage....just thought I'd explain it the best I could in my own words....could help some ppl or w/e.

Ur right, the left arm Turns more, and hence, rolls more w/ a weak grip.

What I was saying though was that if you go to impact fix (flat left) w/ a weak grip, and then with a strong grip...

....the weak grip will leave the face more open- both grips with the same flat wrist.

That's what I noticed in my ga-rage.
 
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EdZ

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IF you 'do' more (rolling the left arm intentionally and/or holding off the turning going back) you have more clubFACE control, more margin for error.

However this assumes that you already have clubHEAD control, which the stronger left hand grip simplifies, more margin for error with the clubHEAD generally means 'less' margin for error with the clubFACE, or at the least, there is a clear relationship between them and they must be BALANCED, and any compensations understood
 
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