What is "slack"?

[mgranato]

Is it up/down - the arms continuing on a bit after the shoulders stop turning?

Is it in/out - the lead arm bending at the elbow a bit at the top?

A little bit of both?

 

[Jared Willerson]

To me it is simply a more relaxed state of the arms. I would say option 2, which will probably lead to a bit of option 1.

So, a bit of both.

 

[OLIVER1]

Is it up/down - the arms continuing on a bit after the shoulders stop turning?

Is it in/out - the lead arm bending at the elbow a bit at the top?

A little bit of both?

I've wrestled with the same problem. Rather than think of what is slack, I prefer to think of what it's not: It's not a rigid left arm, tightness in the left side under the armpit, no overcoiling, no arms being placed in a massively artificial position; in fact. anything that feels like the shoulder girdle is trapped on the upper torso. It's basically thumbing one's nose to all the hoary old chestnuts about generating a tight coil in the backswing.

 

[Steve Greffen]

Is this the slack you were looking for? I'd pay some $$ to see you try this MGranato! LOL


Crazy Slack Line - YouTube

 

[ms1170]

I like to know what "Going normal" means. I'd also like to see a glossary page here at the site. Define terms like Slack, Going normal, Carry, tumble, pop out, twistaway, etc.

 

[Jared Willerson]

Good idea, ms.

We should work on that.

 

[mjstrong]

What about the scapula not being rotated outwards fully (would relate to the in/out)? I can have a straight left arm, but still push my hands further away from me a little bit just by having my left scapula move a bit.

Could that be part of the "slack" too?

 

[ekennedy]

I like to know what "Going normal" means. I'd also like to see a glossary page here at the site. Define terms like Slack, Going normal, Carry, tumble, pop out, twistaway, etc.

I can't imagine there being a problem coming up with definitions that everyone on this site will actually agree upon. Each definition will be 12 pages long, reviewed by NASA scientists, engineers from MIT and several attorneys all while being updated daily like a Wikipedia page.

 

[Brian Manzella]

I like to know what "Going normal" means. I'd also like to see a glossary page here at the site. Define terms like Slack, Going normal, Carry, tumble, pop out, twistaway, etc.

Normal means perpendicular. Normal in the context of the release means perpendicular to the instantaneous path of the clubhead.

Going Normal means STARTING to pull on the club at the grip toward the instantaneous path of the clubhead.

 

[rafared]

A normal, in terms of geometry, is a line that is perpendicular to a tangent at the point of contact. Imagine a circle with a tangent touching it at a point, the normal would run perpendicular to the tangent at the point of contact. In the case of a circle or part of a circular arc the normal line and the radius would be the same line. So in pure geometry the normal line would have to point to the centre of the cirlcle or centre of the circular path.

 

[geeoo]

I like to know what "Going normal" means. I'd also like to see a glossary page here at the site. Define terms like Slack, Going normal, Carry, tumble, pop out, twistaway, etc.

A glossary with video explanations would be nice.

 

[Matt Bryda]

Have you seen Ideas about the release?

Some of these terms are covered in this video.

If you do a search here in the forum you will find all of them and probably some other good stuff as well.

 

[Lindsey Newman]

To me, slack is having the arms (no matter where) in a place that they can move independent of any motion of the pivot. For instance, if you swing your arms completey across your chest or to a height that which they can no longer move you have lost slack. If you retain slack you can swing your arms down even if you tug early with your pivot.

 

[SteveT]

"slack" is simply "looseness" anywhere in the golfswing .... even bending your lead elbow in the backswing is a slackness that must be eliminated very quickly in the start of the downswing. You can even have a "slack" attitude in you swing or game... because you don't cherish every shot.

Intellectual "slackness" abounds .... soooo obvious.

 

[ausfreddy]

Normal means perpendicular. Normal in the context of the release means perpendicular to the instantaneous path of the clubhead.

Going Normal means STARTING to pull on the club at the grip toward the instantaneous path of the clubhead.

A follow-up question. What is the instantaneous path of the clubhead and how can you pull towards it?

 

[Brian Manzella]

To me, slack is having the arms (no matter where) in a place that they can move independent of any motion of the pivot. For instance, if you swing your arms completey across your chest or to a height that which they can no longer move you have lost slack. If you retain slack you can swing your arms down even if you tug early with your pivot.

Good job there Lindsey!

But I'd call that Arm Slack.

Pivot Slack is the opposite of X-Factor and allows for X-Factor stretch.

 

[Kevin Shields]

To me, slack is having the arms (no matter where) in a place that they can move independent of any motion of the pivot. For instance, if you swing your arms completey across your chest or to a height that which they can no longer move you have lost slack. If you retain slack you can swing your arms down even if you tug early with your pivot.

Well, check out the big brain on Brett!


Nice explanation and I couldn't agree more.

 

[spktho]

Good job there Lindsey!

But I'd call that Arm Slack.

Pivot Slack is the opposite of X-Factor and allows for X-Factor stretch.

Do we want to have both?

 

[SteveT]

Pivot Slack is the opposite of X-Factor and allows for X-Factor stretch.

Pivot Paralysis would be rotating the torso from hips to shoulders in unison and not allowing for X-Factor stretch.

Was my question on this topic discussed at AS2?

 

[ScottRob]

To me, slack is having the arms (no matter where) in a place that they can move independent of any motion of the pivot. For instance, if you swing your arms completey across your chest or to a height that which they can no longer move you have lost slack. If you retain slack you can swing your arms down even if you tug early with your pivot.

This was very helpful, thank you.