what is the magic of the right forearm?
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birdie_man
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I believe it's cocking the left wrist without cocking the right???
Although, if I'm wrong, I can think of a few other things it could be...
The RF has lots of roles....
Although, if I'm wrong, I can think of a few other things it could be...
The RF has lots of roles....
Michael Jacobs
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Magic of right forearm
'The "mystery" of the mechanics of golf fades away when right arm participation is understood'
The right elbow / forearm controls the 3 dimensional downstroke
Homer labeled this the "magic of the right forearm" becuase he this was a major key
On Plane Right forearm feels as though it is down under the stomach
'The "mystery" of the mechanics of golf fades away when right arm participation is understood'
The right elbow / forearm controls the 3 dimensional downstroke
Homer labeled this the "magic of the right forearm" becuase he this was a major key
On Plane Right forearm feels as though it is down under the stomach
Bill Miracle
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Hey Mike, how are ya?
If you are who I think you are, I just bought the book from you on ebay. Nice extra that came along with it (video)!!!
Are you saying the feel under the stomach is on the downswing...or all the time?
xplosivegolf said:
If you are who I think you are, I just bought the book from you on ebay. Nice extra that came along with it (video)!!!
Are you saying the feel under the stomach is on the downswing...or all the time?
Michael Jacobs
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Forearm
Forearm Under the stomach at release point (page 116) 8-9
The right forearm of struggling golfers comes in way to high --- usually their right forarm and right elbow are above their stomach
Forearm Under the stomach at release point (page 116) 8-9
The right forearm of struggling golfers comes in way to high --- usually their right forarm and right elbow are above their stomach
xplosivegolf said:
Tick Tick Boooooom. Good image! I like this! This also gives a good correlation of the waist bend and the resulting position of the right forearm during the release/impact interval. If you "come out of it" then your right forearm will also be too high. But if you stay in your waist bend, you can keep your right forearm DOWN and as an added benefit get it deeper into Pitch as well.
Nice post!
Bill Miracle
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Glad I got the book now...
will check it out!
will check it out!
Run, Run, Run, Run
Pitch Position of the elbow isn't an "added benefit"- unless you're obsessed with that!
Also, you start releasing anywhere from the top to the last moment- Diane (8-9) is just showing one example of a "trillion" patterns that are available - that all work great. So the right elbow doesn't need to be under your stomach when you start your release. Now, at impact- might be a good image.
My good man Run-rundmc said:
Pitch Position of the elbow isn't an "added benefit"- unless you're obsessed with that!
Also, you start releasing anywhere from the top to the last moment- Diane (8-9) is just showing one example of a "trillion" patterns that are available - that all work great. So the right elbow doesn't need to be under your stomach when you start your release. Now, at impact- might be a good image.
Jim Kobylinski
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Is the feeling the same for punch elbow position Xplosive? My guess is no. The "under the stomach feeling" i'd relate to more of a deep pitch elbow.
What would be a proper "feeling" for punch.
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What would be a proper "feeling" for punch.
Thanks
Michael Jacobs
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Feel for punch would be the same --- elbow would be down and at the side -- forearm still on plane
By the way, Pitch basic stroke has major advantages (granted their are many ways to do it and the golfing machine provides a catalog for golfers) but in a swinging motion a snap release with a small pulley encounter is far superior
Snap Release = Small Pulley
Sweep Release = Long Pulley
This is where the endless belt effect can be seen
Feel for punch would be the same --- elbow would be down and at the side -- forearm still on plane
By the way, Pitch basic stroke has major advantages (granted their are many ways to do it and the golfing machine provides a catalog for golfers) but in a swinging motion a snap release with a small pulley encounter is far superior
Snap Release = Small Pulley
Sweep Release = Long Pulley
This is where the endless belt effect can be seen
Jim Kobylinski
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xplosivegolf said:
I agree, i use pitch elbow with snap release and as close to a MTD as possible. This allows me extreme speed with minimal effort and big distance.
I was just trying to see, for my own knowledge for those who i teach who don't use pitch elbow (mostly hitters) so i had a way to explain it to them.
Thanks again
birdie_man
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How bout a kidney shot for punch elbow?
Jim Kobylinski
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MTD = maximum trigger delay
i'll look up those sections when i go home and try and post on them.
i'll look up those sections when i go home and try and post on them.
Bill Miracle
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Is the pitch right elbow something that ....
hitters or swingers can use? I am working on using that and having good results. I don't know if I am a hitter or swinger but I think I am a hitter....due to the fact that I am thrusting my right arm vs. only using CF.
If so, would it be wrong to try and use pitch right elbow?
hitters or swingers can use? I am working on using that and having good results. I don't know if I am a hitter or swinger but I think I am a hitter....due to the fact that I am thrusting my right arm vs. only using CF.
If so, would it be wrong to try and use pitch right elbow?
Perfect Impact
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two cents here:
Thrust is relative, depending on the heft of the club and the speed of your transition... Sometimes with a long club you need an early throw; sometimes with a short or light club you can use a late punch or thrust. It will be necessary to adapt TO the club or swingweight or heft or whatever, because of the subtle differences and balance necessary among ALL working parts. The final result is perfect rhythm (as in many of the LPGAers).
Thrust is relative, depending on the heft of the club and the speed of your transition... Sometimes with a long club you need an early throw; sometimes with a short or light club you can use a late punch or thrust. It will be necessary to adapt TO the club or swingweight or heft or whatever, because of the subtle differences and balance necessary among ALL working parts. The final result is perfect rhythm (as in many of the LPGAers).
Jim Kobylinski
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30yrlayoff said:
Hitters can use a pitch elbow but i'd never teach someone to do it. It's much easier to use a punch.
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