What's in store for 2006 on BrianManzella.com

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Steve Khatib

Steve Khatib

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Yes, David a lot of smart people might not contribute to this forum, but why we love it is because it tells the truth and nobody is untouchable!

Imagine debating the golf swing with a David Leadbetter on his forum it would be Communist wouldnt it.

I get told to shut up by brown noses at PGA seminars all the time its not that I am wrong in my views, it is just that its protect the status quo at all costs. Is that going to benefit golfdom or just protect public servants trying to keep their job not do their job to advance golf?
 
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To answer Mizuno Joe I dont think the Hat will ever post here he is just to private a person.

Bobby and Billy love Manzella's site and also like Lynn's site, but they will not go to any of the others anymore as Schaeffer go kicked off an Australian site(they dont know how lucky they were to have him post there!) because he would have been the star and their ego's couldnt handle it I suppose.
 
birdie_man

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quote:Originally posted by FOUR BARRELS AUSTRALIAN

Schaeffer go kicked off an Australian site(they dont know how lucky they were to have him post there!) because he would have been the star and their ego's couldnt handle it I suppose.
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Ya I dunno about that one....why exactly that happened I mean.

He only got the chance to make one post.
 
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David Alford

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One of the best known USA instructors has told me he refuses to post because "it's just not worth it".

Four Barrels and birdie man, you can't say "Homer was wrong"...You CAN"T, no matter how you say it if that's obvious what you are saying. Well, OK, you CAN, but...you better have a heat shield better than NASA'S Shuttle.

Regarding Bobby S...he has good will, but like anyone, would lose it quick if he said HK was wrong or could have added something, etc.
He made a technical error re: hands and Brian GENTLY corrected him. If it had been just about anyone else, someone no doubt would have said "You're a complete MORON. You don't know anything!".

How would this person be expected to react? A little defensive? Yes, you might expect that! He might be a lot better ball striker than HK ever was, but he doesn't know ANYTHING? Maybe he just doesn't know HK peculiar definitions. Moe Norman would undoubtedly fail a TGM test, not because he's dumb about the golf swing, but because of HK's own terminology.

One would think those who have been kicked in the teeth on other forums, would be more tolerant of contrary opinions here. Apparently,
a lot of other golf forums also don't like disageeement with the status quo of whoever is in charge. Right?

It takes bandwidth to ENCOURAGE dissent and contrary opinon. And the only way it is going to happen is with some rules governing personal attacks. Again, maybe I am too optimistic.
 
Steve Khatib

Steve Khatib

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David, I will disprove this theory of yours about nobody saying Homer Kelley is never wrong:

Homer Kelley was wrong about his comments that lie angles in clubs make no difference. I have the guts to say it , am I the only one? I dont think so......
 
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Tom Bartlett

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quote:Originally posted by FOUR BARRELS AUSTRALIAN

David, I will disprove this theory of yours about nobody saying Homer Kelley is never wrong:

Homer Kelley was wrong about his comments that lie angles in clubs make no difference. I have the guts to say it , am I the only one? I dont think so......
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I agreed with you Steve and then I was listening to HK and he was talking about lie angle and how it affected direction. So I went back to my book and found 2-D-1 Major Directional Factors number 13. Tilted clubface (2-D)
So, I read 2-D...Tilting the leading edge changes clubface alignment. Up-to the left. Down-to the right. So, he did mention lie angle so to speak.
But, I do know what you are eluding to where he says lie angle Doesn't matter because the ball is gone before the club contacts the ground.
So, what do you say about this? Was this something he would have changed. We shall see...
 
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Tom Bartlett

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By the way. I have told Brian on several occasions that he should do a live lesson video. Brian shot his videos this past year (destroyed in Katrina) and he had time to kill at the end so he gave one of the camera men a lesson. He was a young guy and had just started playing golf. He started off rolling a few and hitting the rest fat with an occasional 100 yd shot in the air (he was using a 7 iron). By the end of the lesson, about one hour, Brian had him hit several shots 150 yds with the prettiest little draw.
At the AI summit in Birmingham he gave a lesson to Joey Pickavance (really good guy and good player). He totally changed the look of his swing and ball flight in 45 minutes. The lesson was caught on tape and Brian videoed the swing before and after(he needs to post it). Unbelievable improvement.
My point is, it is a treat to watch Brian give a live lesson to any calibre player. He makes it look easy and as many of you know it aint. And, this really sounds like an infomercial, lol. But you can ask Brian, I give him credit or compliment him about once every 8 years or so. It don't come easy.
 
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MizunoJoe

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quote:Originally posted by DD639

he says lie angle Doesn't matter because the ball is gone before the club contacts the ground.
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HK knew that golf isn't played on perfectly level surfaces like mats at a driving range. The natural variances of terrain, even on well manicured cc courses more than cancel out any precise lie adjustments made on a level floor. HK may have been wrong on some things, but not this.

I can imagine 4bls playing Southern Hills in Okla, where on many holes, a perfect drive will put the ball several inches above or below the feet, calling time while his caddy runs to the tour van for a quick lie adjustment. [:p]
 
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quote:Originally posted by DD639

My point is, it is a treat to watch Brian give a live lesson to any calibre player. He makes it look easy and as many of you know it aint. And, this really sounds like an infomercial, lol. But you can ask Brian, I give him credit or compliment him about once every 8 years or so. It don't come easy.
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Brain makes it look easy because for him it is. People have natural talents and abilities they are born with and from the sounds of it communicating Ideas comes easy for brian. I would imagine he does not have to consciously work at that. Golf is a hard sport to understnad so where he paid his dues was in learning the golf swing.
 
birdie_man

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quote:Originally posted by David Alford

One of the best known USA instructors has told me he refuses to post because "it's just not worth it".

Four Barrels and birdie man, you can't say "Homer was wrong"...You CAN"T, no matter how you say it if that's obvious what you are saying. Well, OK, you CAN, but...you better have a heat shield better than NASA'S Shuttle.
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I think you can.

MizJoe has....he didn't get it that bad.
 
Steve Khatib

Steve Khatib

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Tom, I saw the Joey Picovance GSEB lesson at AI Summit Birmingham Brian did a great job there, I would not see any destination marketed instructor coming within a million miles of doing the job Brian did with Joey!
 
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David Alford

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You shouldn't get it "that bad" at all. People with dissenting ideas should be WELCOMED, instead of getting kicked in the teeth.
But...so it goes through history.

The one nice thing about the golf swing business, when you hit the ball straight, the arguments stop.
The little white ball is ever the impartial judge.
 
tourdeep

tourdeep

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...invidual page for member's subjectmarks/favorites. All have running counts for total posts, new posts, and time of posts.

..."new messages" from public posts for each member


...area on message to "view replies" and the number of replies. Who is responding to what?

...hyperlink in message area to post respond to a specific message or to the general topic.

...a general topic/original post that can de displayed at all times or "hide" it. It defines the topic.

...have a "peoplemark", to follow member posts we admire.

..."ignore" feature.
 
dale47

dale47

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Our own chatroom ! Maybe have a weekly meeting time there....etc. . It would also serve as a great place to exchange swing video's and other files. You could also do a weekly ,monthly,whatever type audio lesson from the chatroom. A place for all who love this game and want to learn more of Homers teachings and to share some thoughts. It's endless what you could you can do with that type of a room.
 
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