What's putting the brakes on?

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Matt Bryda

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OLIVER1 said:
nate - I see what your saying with pushing back on the grip with the left hand, but the problem for me is that the judderyness coming into impact means I can't get into position to do that. The left arm is a blocker and when I pull back the grip I just end up flicking.

mjh116 - Don't worry about my suicidal tendencies. I'm English and, as such, only bathe once or twice a year. (not above risible stereoptyping;))

matt - If you could expandd a bit more on the endless arm-shoulder drag, I'd appreciate it. When I can't get the lead arm to release off the pivot, the arm, shoulders and hips just spin around in an effort to get some decent line of compresion on the ball...BUT they all go round together and the power is gone

Thanks to everyone for throwing a couple of pennies on the saucer - very much appreciated
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Oliver,
I think the drag is related to lower body/upper body differential at transition.
Without a minimum amount of this differential makes it tough to have enough time to set up downswing.
just an idea..
 
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Matt Bryda said:
Oliver,
I think the drag is related to lower body/upper body differential at transition.
Without a minimum amount of this differential makes it tough to have enough time to set up downswing.
just an idea..
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Ah,
You mean as decent as I transition and as decent as I tumble, it's difficult to take it all through impact if the upper and lower body take off TOGETHER to initiate the downswing. Is that correct, Matt?
 
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Matt Bryda said:
Sorry Mike but your point is not obvious enough for me:)
Remember, I am a little slow sometimes.
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federer, without the help of the ground, rotates his torso and lead arm toward the target to hit the shot while the "brakes" are put on the hips....if anything from the top of the backswing to impact, his hips close.....ala rory mcleroy, ala the office chair demo, ala everything art maffei and steven nesbit have ever said....

you see this even more clearly because he's in the air....

ala the comb over is done

ala abdelnaby

ala rare duke basketball reference
 
Matt Bryda

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OLIVER1 said:
Ah,
You mean as decent as I transition and as decent as I tumble, it's difficult to take it all through impact if the upper and lower body take off TOGETHER to initiate the downswing. Is that correct, Matt?
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Yes this but also where you begin the sequence from. I just think for some people it sets up better if they move the point between the shoulders
(Upper back) to their right. Again just an idea.
 
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OLIVER1 said:
Brian,
I thought that the club flailing a bit down and behind me would prevent early tumbling. Is that not so? At the risk of opening myself for considerable amounts of ridicule, why do the vast majority of members seem to have a ball with this, while I am left like a freezing cold, shoeless ragamuffin, looking on longingly from the outside in?

Jeremy, Yes, I've lost it all:(
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MORE? You want MORE?
 
mgranato

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OLIVER1 said:
That's why my screen name is what it is...
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Really thought I had this one sorted...

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A quick trip to the range last night and after the usual shat for the first 20 minutes or so something occurred to me. At transition, i tried to keep my hands exactly where they were and allow the front side of my body to pull away from them and instantly I was able to get my body to go and clear before my arms and hands got to the negative beta point. I think that I'd become so focused on the tumble that my arms and hands were just running straight into my pivot, which, in turn, was jumping out of the way or spinning around to make room and ruining the effect of the good tumble I was convinced I'd achieved.

This would dovetail perfectly with what Matt Bryda and spktho had very kindly suggested to me earlier in the thread, so thanks Matt and spktho; indeed, thanks to everyone who helped me out here. Very much appreciated
 
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Getting too wide is death for me
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I know this sensation, I have to remind myself it's not a torque
creating contest, it's a create the amount of torque you can handle..
for your desired shot.
 
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Matt Bryda said:
I know this sensation, I have to remind myself it's not a torque
creating contest, it's a create the amount of torque you can handle..
for your desired shot.
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That and it lends to more sway.

Something else to think about, as Michael Jacobs describes it, is to try to maintain the offset angle between the club shaft and hands into impact. I translate this into feeling low hands into impact with the clubhead out more horizontal rather than vertical.
 
JEREMY5577

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The Mannassero front9 video clicked for me. I haven't felt tuggy since keeping the right elbow below the left coming down.
 
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