shootin4par
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has 25 yards of draw, what causes this? I have been hitting the ball where it starts straight and then draws 10 yards with a pitching wedge, 25 with a driver.
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Jim Kobylinski
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A closed clubface at separation with an in/out swing.
You need to hit the ball with a more open face or get rid of the flip (which dramatically closes the face) if you have one.
You need to hit the ball with a more open face or get rid of the flip (which dramatically closes the face) if you have one.
Jim Kobylinski
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possibly...from my understanding brian calls people who hook the ball via a "flip" leakage hookers because it isn't a real hook.
shootin4par
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does not seem to be leakage due to the feeling i get at contact, very solid consistent and long
bts
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A severe "inside-out" clubhead path (due to ball position or swing plane or pivot action) and a "closing" clubface (too strong a grip or active the roll-over) through impact, during which the clubface is:
1. facing to the right (yet square or slightly close relative to the clubhead path) of the target at impact and
2. square (yet a lot closer relative to the clubhead path) to the target at separation.
shootin4par
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it seems that Jim might be right because I also have hit a couple of big blocks, so it seems I need to go back and work on hinge action again. I think this got started again by my chipping and having no hinge action in my chipping. Since I practice 100 chips every range session before I go hit balls. Another weird thing is when I set up for a draw, closing the clubface a little at address, I seen to push slice REALLY bad. I tried to hit quite a few draws today and could not do it. would that go hand in hand with my overdraw
Jim Kobylinski
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You need to watch never hook again...
I sometimes do this - An excessive draw rather than full blown hook - sidespin seems to overtake backspin toward the end of the flight.
One thing to try, is to purposely try and hook a ball around a tree or whatever. How do you do it? When you find out how you do it, then stop doing it in your normal swing!
You want a ball that flies fairly straight, and curves from its apex.
If you have solid contact (you can 'hear' the ball), then chances are your grip to clubface relationship does not match the rotation rate of your lead forearm and torso (r.p.m.'s).
You have broken the imaginary spoke that extends from 'center' to your hands, the hands and chest are not in synch.
Your plane line is probably pointed to the left. If you imagine a wheel tilted 'on plane', the wheel is rolling left of your target when you hit the pulls, and is right of the target when you hit the sweep hooks, assuming a flat lead wrist though the ball. If that is not the case, you have allowed your right wrist to flatten too soon.
Chances are great that you can not hold a perfectly balanced finish position until the ball has stopped, or swing a heavy club with your eyes closed as smoothly as possible.
Given your comments, I would suspect your grip is the root of the issue, and that you do not have an appropriate feel for "supporting" impact with your left arm.
Hitting some chip shots left hand only, as well as pitch and even punch shots while letting go with your right hand through impact should help, as will some right hand only chip shots - focused on the right wrist.
bergsey
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For what it's worth i'm having similar issues but mainly with the driver. My irons are straight maybe with a couple of feet of draw. My woods are sweeping hooks. One of my playing partners pinpointed the problem - i was taking it way too far inside on the takeaway, getting flat and then coming waayyy inside out on the downstroke. No clubface rotation = high blocks straight right, too much = low sweeping hook left
I'm focussing on keeping the clubhead more outside my hands on the takeaway with the driver and is starting to straighten things out.
May be worth a try or check
I'm focussing on keeping the clubhead more outside my hands on the takeaway with the driver and is starting to straighten things out.
May be worth a try or check
Brian Manzella
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90% of all hooker swing WAY TOO FAR inside-out.
The "Never Hook Again" pattern will help any of these golfers, but in the short run, do this:
Aim as far left as you need to to start the ball left. Then try to get the ball to curve right. When you can, do it it less...and then less...until....you LIKE it
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The "Never Hook Again" pattern will help any of these golfers, but in the short run, do this:
Aim as far left as you need to to start the ball left. Then try to get the ball to curve right. When you can, do it it less...and then less...until....you LIKE it
.shootin4par
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Found out the problem, grip was too much in the fingers on lead hand, put it more in the palm and the problem is gone
Brian Manzella
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Great!
The grip is always the place to start.
The grip is always the place to start.
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