Why no more wristy putters?

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Tball88

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Played golf with a guy today who made everything. All he did was keep his body still and pop the ball with his hands, it was all wrists.

Very similar to the old Bobby Jones style of putting.

Made me wonder why people don't putt that way any longer, takes a lot of the moving parts out of the motion.
 
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thefuture37

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common response is that the greens were so bad back then they needed the extra power to get the ball to the hole. If you watch old footage, the ball starts off really fast after they hit the putt, but then it screeches to a halt around the hole.
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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thefuture37 said:
common response is that the greens were so bad back then they needed the extra power to get the ball to the hole. If you watch old footage, the ball starts off really fast after they hit the putt, but then it screeches to a halt around the hole.
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Bingo! Esstentially, greens are so much better nowadays you can create a more "accurate stroke." However, for this guy you played with, maybe a wristy stroke is his most accurate way.
 
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FWIW Pelz argued that it'd be difficult to repeat under pressure. I think there might be some truth to that, but to each his own.
 
self-mastery

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What ever works! I think that most players have more feel with that kind of stroke, but not as much putter face control (IME).
 
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Greens more than anything. In some of that old footage you can see full out shoulder turns on some putts. Plus tour greens are really fast. You can get away with it more at most courses because the greens will let you.
 
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Tball88

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I was watching today and it looks like Jeev Singh puts this way, probably the first tour pro i've seen in a while stroking it with the wrists.
 
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Jared Willerson

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johngolf33 said:
Maybe today's greens are just too fast.
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"for every fundamental in golf....I will show you a superstar, and I don't use that word lightly, that doesn't do it" Gary Player

Anecdotal evidence can support anything. Today's greens are faster, which is why the majority don't putt this way. Doesn't mean you can't do it. :)
 
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thefuture37

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bobby jones' putter also had the loft of a 2 iron if I remember correctly. Those greens must have been like the fairways are now.
 
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thefuture37

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theres alot of different ways to release a putter. you can rotate your forearms a little(like Tiger), flip at it, etc... Funniest thing about people that use belly putters is that they force you to flip at it.
 
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How do you mean? (if it can be explained without showing in person)

I haven't tried those belly putter all that much really future.
 
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thefuture37

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with a belly putter you anchor it in your navel, so thats the hinge point. If the hinge point stays constant throughout the stroke and you start with mid-body hands, theres no other way to "release" the clubhead. A couple weeks ago they showed a slo-mo of calcevecchia where he pushed a putt badly. It showed how when he did this the end of the belly putter came out of his body.
 
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thefuture37

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self-mastery said:
Why can't you use your stomach as a true anchor, not a "hinge point", while rotating your torso?
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Whats the point of doing that? The reason a lot of people go to belly putters is because with a short putter their "release" is inconsistent. Sometimes they release it, sometimes they block it down the line. A putter doesn't weigh that much. Theres no reason any person would need to anchor it to their body. The body contact is so they have some sort of constant in their swing that they can swing the putter from.
 
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