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Yoda/Holenone's Swing
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Thanks Cisco, nice addition to our own little Video Vault.
Very impressive swing to say the least. Can anyone answer a couple of questions regarding Yoda's swing?
1) Does he employ a waggle
2) I don't see a noticably pre-turned right hip in this hitting procedure, am I missing it, or is he not doing it.
3) To my eye, he 'seems as if' his weight distribution favors his left side throughout the swing. Where does he 'feel' his weight is through the swing.
Also, I like the way he hovers the driver head off the ground before his shot. Not unlike a certain gentleman named Mr. Jack William Nicklaus.
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Triad
Good observation. ECox is helping me with this. He's been schooled by Yoda. I have and still struggle with a pronounced "weight shift." E said you have to "feel" like you are staying left and suggested feeling like you pivot around your left leg. It was amazing how much different it felt. Just like I was standing still and bending my right elbow.
This may not work for everybody. But I had fallen prey to all that "shift you weight back and through" garbage. E says the biggest problem with this excessive movement is it moves your low point around which just introduces too many variables.
Look at Hogan's swing also look at Brian's swing. Looks like the do the same thing to me.
This is the feeling you get when you "moon" the target on the backswing. The tailbone moves closer to the target and there is only a PRESSURE shift onto the right heel, rather than a weight shift. From this point, you can take whatever amount of hip slide you want. Some move the left hip over the left foot and some stay inside the left instep.
Yoda builds A frames instead of K frames with a steady centered head.
Of all the clips I have of Yoda swinging (small s) a golf club, this one appeared to favor the left side more the others. Yoda never sways to the right but instead loads the right shoulder on plane with the take-away. He has a couple swings on the Martee make-over CD that is as sweet and POWERFUL as any tour swing. And its "just" 12-1-0 or 12-2-0.
Of all the clips I have of Yoda swinging (small s) a golf club, this one appeared to favor the left side more the others. Yoda never sways to the right but instead loads the right shoulder on plane with the take-away. He has a couple swings on the Martee make-over CD that is as sweet and POWERFUL as any tour swing. And its "just" 12-1-0 or 12-2-0.
Yoda's video along with Redgoat's site and Brian's Shigecki video, helped me put together a much more effective backswing pivot this morning.
Is Yoda "cracking the right nut"? This morning at the range, I maintained my right knee flex, while feeling my right hip sliding into and compressing my right , ummmm, you know what, but was actually my right hip rotating.
Brian uploaded a clip of Shigeki, which demonstrated right hip rotation coniciding with maintaining the right knee flex. ALthough many of these swing sequences look like the right knee is straightening significantly( to me at least), that is mostly an optical illusion caused by right hip rotation. The right knee, as Brian has said, straightens just a little.
I concentrated on pivot, specifically keeping my right knee flexed. I always straighten it a lot, but this compact right hip motion worked beautifully. Which came first, the pivot or the hands? I think all this past work on the hands has actually helped out my pivot. Now I think working on my pivot will do likewise for the hands.
One collateral benefit from this new compact backswing right hip right knee, right leg motion, is that during the middle of my backswing, I feel like I going into in a sit down/squat position. I could never successfully get into a sitdown/squat position on the downswing. Way too many moving partswhich are much too difficult to synchronize. Is there such thing as a pre-squat?
Is Yoda "cracking the right nut"? This morning at the range, I maintained my right knee flex, while feeling my right hip sliding into and compressing my right , ummmm, you know what, but was actually my right hip rotating.
Brian uploaded a clip of Shigeki, which demonstrated right hip rotation coniciding with maintaining the right knee flex. ALthough many of these swing sequences look like the right knee is straightening significantly( to me at least), that is mostly an optical illusion caused by right hip rotation. The right knee, as Brian has said, straightens just a little.
I concentrated on pivot, specifically keeping my right knee flexed. I always straighten it a lot, but this compact right hip motion worked beautifully. Which came first, the pivot or the hands? I think all this past work on the hands has actually helped out my pivot. Now I think working on my pivot will do likewise for the hands.
One collateral benefit from this new compact backswing right hip right knee, right leg motion, is that during the middle of my backswing, I feel like I going into in a sit down/squat position. I could never successfully get into a sitdown/squat position on the downswing. Way too many moving partswhich are much too difficult to synchronize. Is there such thing as a pre-squat?
Wanole:
http://redgoat.smugmug.com/
Site of Brady Riggs who is an Instructor based in Van Nuys, CA.
FL-John
http://redgoat.smugmug.com/
Site of Brady Riggs who is an Instructor based in Van Nuys, CA.
FL-John
MJ,
That's a good image . . . well sort of . . . in golf anyway. That's how ECox described it to me too. You kind of turn your butt around your left leg.
How about the tempo too. Looked pretty effortless. I guess when you have the mechanics and alignments correct efficient motion is pretty sweet to watch. It's pretty funny you can take people to a range who know squat about golf and they instinctively know who can hit the ball and I guess what looks efficient.
Wanole:
http://redgoat.smugmug.com/
Site of Brady Riggs who is an Instructor based in Van Nuys, CA.
FL-John
http://redgoat.smugmug.com/
Site of Brady Riggs who is an Instructor based in Van Nuys, CA.
FL-John
ciscoxpert
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No problem Armourall. Below are the exact words he said before the swing:
<div align="left">"The golf swing is very simple. The right forearm is picking up and tracing a straight plane line. The left arm is forming the radius of your stroke and executing one of the hinge actions. See how I got that on the same plane (right forearm and clubshaft) and feel that pressure point there (PP#1)." </div id="left">
I see you got an answer. Martee is a good friend to TGM and Yoda offered to help fix a few problems. Some money was raised to fly Martee to Atlanta and Yoda did his "magic."
Whoever donated some money got an unexpected gift in the mail. Better then winning a lottery.Yoda and Homer are quite a team. It didn't take long to put Martee in a good postion to pick up the club and put the clubhead back down onto the golf ball. Pure 12-1-0 and 12-2-0. I mention that because so many try to "alter" the two swings, which is fine - there are some components that can be tailored to help a golfer that might need help with strength,flexibility, etc. But outside of that, Yoda proves that those two swings can't be beat. Would anyone here not want to swing/hit like that?
David Alford
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I was glad to finally see Yoda's swing. I like it very much, esp. the
backswing. It's hard to look good on video. Period.
Well done, Yoda.
backswing. It's hard to look good on video. Period.
Well done, Yoda.
(also posted this at another site)
I hate to admit that after reading the book many times, reading all posts at three TGM sites, watching a few TGM vids...........
I still can't tell if Yoda (I have re-named him Mr. Man) is swinging or hitting in this video!
I would be elated to see him performing both, hitting and swinging, in a video, side by side?
Is he hitting or swinging here? The clue(s) to the answer to my question?
I hate to admit that after reading the book many times, reading all posts at three TGM sites, watching a few TGM vids...........
I still can't tell if Yoda (I have re-named him Mr. Man) is swinging or hitting in this video!
I would be elated to see him performing both, hitting and swinging, in a video, side by side?
Is he hitting or swinging here? The clue(s) to the answer to my question?
Wally:
Hopefully Yoda will confirm but I would be almost positive to say hitting. A few things:
(1) Yoda mentioned in a previous video clip that a swinger uses the right shoulder as a flywheel and 'spins' to create the centrifugal force throwout action.
(2) In hitting, one uses the right shoulder as a backstop and drives the right forearm against the shoulder.
I really do not pick up much of the flywheel with the right shoulder but more of a right arm thrust...if we saw the shot from down the line, we may also see if was using the typical angled hinge of a hitter.
FL-John
Hopefully Yoda will confirm but I would be almost positive to say hitting. A few things:
(1) Yoda mentioned in a previous video clip that a swinger uses the right shoulder as a flywheel and 'spins' to create the centrifugal force throwout action.
(2) In hitting, one uses the right shoulder as a backstop and drives the right forearm against the shoulder.
I really do not pick up much of the flywheel with the right shoulder but more of a right arm thrust...if we saw the shot from down the line, we may also see if was using the typical angled hinge of a hitter.
FL-John
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