Your most effective method for a FLAT LEFT WRIST
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one more try Brian
Crude text-diagram below.
Your box (vertical leading edge)
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Improved box (forward leaning front edge)( apostrophes for spacing only)
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Crude text-diagram below.
Your box (vertical leading edge)
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|****| ---------> direction of shot from face on view
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Improved box (forward leaning front edge)( apostrophes for spacing only)
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'/ ***|
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Curtis:
You would think so but with the forward lean built into most irons, the hand will need to be leading the clubhead in order to get the shaft fairly flat against the box...if you've ever viewed some of Ben Doyle's clips where he is teaching, he constantly hits a square milk crate. After hitting it, he 'rubs' or runs the shaft that is touching the crate up and down the side of it, to show that the hands must be a bit forward of the clubhead for the shaft to be flat against the crate.
One of the illusions in G.O.L.F.
FL-John
You would think so but with the forward lean built into most irons, the hand will need to be leading the clubhead in order to get the shaft fairly flat against the box...if you've ever viewed some of Ben Doyle's clips where he is teaching, he constantly hits a square milk crate. After hitting it, he 'rubs' or runs the shaft that is touching the crate up and down the side of it, to show that the hands must be a bit forward of the clubhead for the shaft to be flat against the crate.
One of the illusions in G.O.L.F.
FL-John
for Glcoach (and others)
Hi again,
heres a better (hopefully) explanation of my "Swing the whole shaft" description.
first..take a look at this..
http://www.image-upload.net/files/4533/swingpaths2.jpg
in the top portion of the diagram, which represents the motion in a Linear fashion, picture the two green lines as steel trailway tracks. the yellow lines represent the clubshaft per my "swing the whole shaft" aka... no part of the shaft moving faster than any other part of the shaft = all parts moving at the same speed aka = no clubhead throw-away.
Notice that in all the yellow shafts, the nice forward-lean that we want at impact and the angles of all shafts stays the same.
The thin red lines close to the yellow shafts, represents what you would see if you "Swung the clubhead" as were so often told to do, as you can see, the clubhead quickly passes leading to a 'shaft' that is leaning BACK immediately after impact.
Now, imagine.. that i could weld the tops of the grips of all those clubs to the upper railway track..and also weld the clubheads of all those shafts to the lower rail way track.
Now... if i picked up that whole assembly...and bent it into a curve....you would get what you can see in the lower part of the diagram.
In order to actually construct this circular diagram you will notice that the yellow lines are always leaning the same amount of angle away from a line drawn from the centre of the circle. (blue line). In exactly the same way in the upper part of the diagram, the yellow lines were always leaning the same amount away from being vertical. the only difference in the lower part...is that the whole thing is now in a curved fashion.
Notice that in the case of the red shafts ("swiiiiing the clubhead") that the shaft (and clubhead!!) quickly passes in frint of the blue line = THROWAWAY !!....where-as the yellow line DOES NOT ! in fact the yellow line/shaft remains in a constant relationship to the blue line = NO THROW-AWAY !! .....why??????? because the whole shaft has been swung through ....NOT JUST THE CLUBHEAD.
Hope this helps
Hi again,
heres a better (hopefully) explanation of my "Swing the whole shaft" description.
first..take a look at this..
http://www.image-upload.net/files/4533/swingpaths2.jpg
in the top portion of the diagram, which represents the motion in a Linear fashion, picture the two green lines as steel trailway tracks. the yellow lines represent the clubshaft per my "swing the whole shaft" aka... no part of the shaft moving faster than any other part of the shaft = all parts moving at the same speed aka = no clubhead throw-away.
Notice that in all the yellow shafts, the nice forward-lean that we want at impact and the angles of all shafts stays the same.
The thin red lines close to the yellow shafts, represents what you would see if you "Swung the clubhead" as were so often told to do, as you can see, the clubhead quickly passes leading to a 'shaft' that is leaning BACK immediately after impact.
Now, imagine.. that i could weld the tops of the grips of all those clubs to the upper railway track..and also weld the clubheads of all those shafts to the lower rail way track.
Now... if i picked up that whole assembly...and bent it into a curve....you would get what you can see in the lower part of the diagram.
In order to actually construct this circular diagram you will notice that the yellow lines are always leaning the same amount of angle away from a line drawn from the centre of the circle. (blue line). In exactly the same way in the upper part of the diagram, the yellow lines were always leaning the same amount away from being vertical. the only difference in the lower part...is that the whole thing is now in a curved fashion.
Notice that in the case of the red shafts ("swiiiiing the clubhead") that the shaft (and clubhead!!) quickly passes in frint of the blue line = THROWAWAY !!....where-as the yellow line DOES NOT ! in fact the yellow line/shaft remains in a constant relationship to the blue line = NO THROW-AWAY !! .....why??????? because the whole shaft has been swung through ....NOT JUST THE CLUBHEAD.
Hope this helps
mrodock
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This is excellent, thanks everyone for your responses. If anyone else has some additional ideas that would be fantastic.
Some other's I like:
1. Float loading (as Brian lays out so well in his Confessions of a Former Flipper video)
2. Drive a bent right elbow through impact. Try to keep it bent at a 90 degree angle through impact (it will likely straighten some before impact). A good model for this move is David Toms.
Matt
Some other's I like:
1. Float loading (as Brian lays out so well in his Confessions of a Former Flipper video)
2. Drive a bent right elbow through impact. Try to keep it bent at a 90 degree angle through impact (it will likely straighten some before impact). A good model for this move is David Toms.
Matt
birdie_man
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Try aiming it past the ball....(Aiming Point- "Aiming Point replaces the ball.")
The flipping hacker´s view
For me (11,7, TGM 4 months):
1. Pure swing device (I had also never understood the amount of shaft rotation thru impact before)
2. POST impact thoughts like "basketball dribble up the wall" with lower hand
3. "Show me your muscle" move with upper arm
For me (11,7, TGM 4 months):
1. Pure swing device (I had also never understood the amount of shaft rotation thru impact before)
2. POST impact thoughts like "basketball dribble up the wall" with lower hand
3. "Show me your muscle" move with upper arm
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self-mastery
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Forward press
aiming point
swing thought-- beat the ball into the ground until the ball rolls up the clubface.
I use a tire to train my left wrist and beat balls out of a 4ft high hump of mulch that I'm spreading in my backyard.
When I'm using a "pure" swing I just allow CF to do all of the work for me and just make sure I lean the handle a lil towards the target.
aiming point
swing thought-- beat the ball into the ground until the ball rolls up the clubface.
I use a tire to train my left wrist and beat balls out of a 4ft high hump of mulch that I'm spreading in my backyard.
When I'm using a "pure" swing I just allow CF to do all of the work for me and just make sure I lean the handle a lil towards the target.
Michael Jacobs
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Go buy a 2 Tac - Tic wrist trainers - put 1 on the left and 1 on the right
Right wrist would click bent on the backswing (assuming you start from standard address)
left wrist would click as it flatens on the backstroke
and then no clicks from then on in
Right wrist would click bent on the backswing (assuming you start from standard address)
left wrist would click as it flatens on the backstroke
and then no clicks from then on in
Bill Miracle
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Hey.....my first attempt at a "Brianism" got some play
Billdrulf said:
Brian Manzella
Administrator
Hey....
What about the "basketball dribble up the wall"???
Now that is a Brian-ism!
(oh-OH, it's not in the book...)
TCBBM — Mike Finney
What about the "basketball dribble up the wall"???
Now that is a Brian-ism!
(oh-OH, it's not in the book...)
TCBBM — Mike Finney
birdie_man
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TCBBM?
birdie_man
New
See Brian's logo?
That's hitting the box.
The further forward the box is....generally.....the better.
(and DO have axis tilt)
That's hitting the box.
The further forward the box is....generally.....the better.
(and DO have axis tilt)
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