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begolfpro

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dannyc said:


this doesn't work for everyone
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Fat shots occur because 1.) there has been no transfer of weight thru the swing 2.) the player has not come up to avoid the club striking the ground before the ball 3.) he has not brought his right elbow closer to his hip...no wonder it takes so many years just to play this game better. :D
 
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Kevin Shields

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begolfpro said:
Check out these sequences and then you can see what I mean...
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At impact his head has dropped/tilted to the ground and his back has moved up. Constant spine tilt, I don't know about that. His right elbow has moved to his right hip and now the right forearm is inline with the shaft!! ALL THE PROS DO THIS...setting up with the right forearm inline with the shaft will eliminate the need to do ALL of the above :)

There are more sequences on the golf digest website...:)
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I agree that the spine angle cahnges alot with top players, but you are out of your mind if you think ALL top players have their forearm in line with the shaft at impact. C'mon. For every one that does I'll name one that doesn't.
 
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Kevin Shields

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Ernie Els, David Toms, Stewart Cink, Trevor Immelman, Tom Watson. Alot do, but it is not an absolute. Immelman and Els, especially with irons, have the right arm straight and more vertical than the shaft. The others, especially with the driver, stand the shaft up and have their right forearm parallel to the ground.

You can add Retief and Hunter Mahan to that list as well.
 
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begolfpro

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All Pros Imapct Positions Are The Same!

SAM SNEAD!!!
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David Toms
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Arnold Palmer!!
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Todd Hamilton
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Vijay Singh (look how far up he has come)
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Adam Scott
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Lorena Ochoa
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Boo Weekley
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They ALL do it! They just don't know they do :D
 
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Kevin Shields

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What??? Vijay's isnt even close. Where all all the others I mentioned? Go on youtube swingvisions. Thats Toms with a driver post impact. Check out his iron swing on youtube. They absolutely do not ALL do it.
 
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I'm not voicing an opinion on whether or not most pros have club on a certain plane at impact (since I haven't looked that closely), but I do know that by moving a camera to film from different perspectives you could make someone look like they were on -- or were not on -- a specific plane at impact.
 
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begolfpro said:
You mean you REALLY cannot see it! WOW :eek:
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I agree with Kevin. Some of the guys in the pics you posted aren't even CLOSE to having the right forearm on plane with the shaft.

An on plane right forearm is typically only for online mechanics anyway. The minute you start talking different ball flights, you'll see different right forearm alignments.
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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begolfpro said:
The reason you would hit it fat is because the right forearm and club shaft are NOT on the same plane at address...standing up at impact is to allow this to happen...at impact ALL good golfers have their right forearms in line with the club shaft and the right elbow close to the body.

As an experiment setup with the right forearm inline with the club shaft and hit balls...let me know what happens :) and in your setup have the ball opposite the toe end of the club and not the center. this will help you strike down and thru the ball because if you stand up you are going to miss the ball :D
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I have no idea what this is addressing; the fact remains people stand up to avoid hitting it fat and the "fat hit" they avoid can be for all kinds of reasons and not just the ones you state. I could go out and hit a fat shot with my right forearm perfectly on the "shaft plane" for you; it's irrevelent.
 
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GPM1985

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Can anyone provide an explanation for why the right forearm needs to be on the same plane as the shaft? Exactly what does this accomplish? Why is it optimal? What type of player would exhibit this quality? I need some hard evidence here. Explain why an "on-plane" right forearm makes you hit the ball better. I'm just curious.
 
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tongzilla said:
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Kevin, isn't Ernie's right forearm basically in-line with the shaft in the above pic?
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I agree with Kevin..it looks to me like the right forearm is above the shaft and there is some shaft droop in that picture. Maybe some are seeing the shaft droop and not looking at the grip end?? I dunno
 
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GPM1985 said:
Can anyone provide an explanation for why the right forearm needs to be on the same plane as the shaft? Exactly what does this accomplish? Why is it optimal? What type of player would exhibit this quality? I need some hard evidence here. Explain why an "on-plane" right forearm makes you hit the ball better. I'm just curious.
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It doesn't need to be...
 
tongzilla

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no big deal...

If you set up in a normal, orthodox way, your right forearm at address will be higher than the shaft plane.

And if you swing in a normal, orthodox way, that right forearm and right elbow WILL be lower at impact.
 
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