A simple question or two
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jeffy
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I want it now!
I also said that in the release thread just related it to a pitcher in baseball.
jeffy
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Brian's answer to my extreme lag question in the the last post of the "Release" thread is interesting, because it confirms, I believe, what I have been suggesting: that there is a "good" way to achieve extreme lag that doesn't rob power, and a "bad" way to achieve extreme lag that does rob power. The "good" way, Brian explained, happens:
if you have greater force capabilities in your hands, like a massively strong Gary Woodland, you HAD TO RELEASE LATER to "line it up" and reach max speed.
That implies that non-massively strong players with extreme lag are releasing too late for maximum speed:
It also suggests that some of the short-hitting early releasers, like Jerry Kelly, Rocco Mediate and the elusive disappearing pro might release too early, does it not?
if you have greater force capabilities in your hands, like a massively strong Gary Woodland, you HAD TO RELEASE LATER to "line it up" and reach max speed.
That implies that non-massively strong players with extreme lag are releasing too late for maximum speed:
It also suggests that some of the short-hitting early releasers, like Jerry Kelly, Rocco Mediate and the elusive disappearing pro might release too early, does it not?
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Sure for the "short-hitting early releasers", unless they are not trying to achieve maximum distance/clubhead speed and playing more of a controlled game. Or maybe they are trying for maximum distance/clubhead speed, but are only that "strong" and have to use the "early release".
BM & MJ,
Thanks for the Midnight Video. It was entertaining, as well as informative.
Kevin mentioned that Gainey, although a remarkable ball-striker, hits it low with a draw-bias (and poodles can be buried in his divots!) Is this because dragging the handle with the accompaning increased lean skews the true path more out to the right? Does his steeper angle of attack impede his ability to control his iron distances to a degree? Is it easier to "zero out" going "normal?" The intent of going normal has helped me tremendously to learn how to swing left on my irons and it has helped me even more to learn how to swing up with my driver. I realize that you can swing up with a fair amoung of forward lean, but it seems a lot simpler to let the club head "go."
Thanks for the Midnight Video. It was entertaining, as well as informative.
Kevin mentioned that Gainey, although a remarkable ball-striker, hits it low with a draw-bias (and poodles can be buried in his divots!) Is this because dragging the handle with the accompaning increased lean skews the true path more out to the right? Does his steeper angle of attack impede his ability to control his iron distances to a degree? Is it easier to "zero out" going "normal?" The intent of going normal has helped me tremendously to learn how to swing left on my irons and it has helped me even more to learn how to swing up with my driver. I realize that you can swing up with a fair amoung of forward lean, but it seems a lot simpler to let the club head "go."
jeffy
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Right you are! Keep the eye on the prize!
Brian Manzella
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Jeffy,
What is important here is this:
YOU NEED TO APPLY THE TORQUE EARLIER THAN ALL THE PLAYERS YOU POST UP FROM KM's SITE!!!!!!
That's all that SHOULD matter and we can close this "non" debate.
Got it?
What is important here is this:
YOU NEED TO APPLY THE TORQUE EARLIER THAN ALL THE PLAYERS YOU POST UP FROM KM's SITE!!!!!!
That's all that SHOULD matter and we can close this "non" debate.
Got it?
Brian Manzella
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And BTW, hand speed strength is IMPOSSIBLE to judge by looking.
Mike Finney has MASSIVELY STRONG FOR SPEED hands compared to me.
Mike Finney has MASSIVELY STRONG FOR SPEED hands compared to me.
jeffy
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This torque is a deliberate application of force through the hands and wrists? Deliberately uncocking?
jeffy
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What distinguishes the two? How does one develop "stronger for speed" strength?
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Why can Usain Bolt run faster than everyone else? Ratio of fast twitch muscle to slow twitch muscle, among many other physical factors. Deoxyribonucleic acid.
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Brian Manzella
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HAND TORQUE:
Let's say you held a club, put your arms on a table, kept your right arm from straightening, and moved the clubhead as fast as you could with your hands and wrists.
Let's say you held a club, put your arms on a table, kept your right arm from straightening, and moved the clubhead as fast as you could with your hands and wrists.
I must have missed it in the earlier pages.
You can improve with training to an extent. In high school I played baseball and could regularly run to first in 4.0-4.2 seconds after hitting the ball, which is pretty quick. I tore my left knee acl in the last league game of my senior year of high school. Had surgery to repair it, redshirted my freshman year of college to rehab it working the hardest I ever had in my life. I would run sprints daily, do plyometrics 3 days a week, run sprints on an incline...I worked my ass off. The best time I ever got in college was a 4.3. I learned to anticipate a lot more as a base runner with less speed than I was used to. This was big dose of reality for me. I guess some other people have not realized their limitations yet. Sometimes there are limitations out of your control which, if you want to do well in whatever you are doing, you use what you have to the best of your ability.
It may have been in a different thread that I mentioned this to Jeffy, doesn't matter, he's not buying any of that, so it seems.
I know what your saying, makes perfect sense to me. Sometimes you can make adjustments but sometimes you just can't.
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