Kevin Shields
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If anyone cares, my favorite swings were 1998 Duval and 1992 Fred Couples....then Faldo.
Athletic Golf vs. Powder-Puff Golf?
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mjstrong
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Interesting; I'm also a big fan of Duval's former move. I think it's a great way for a lot of strong-grippers to play.
jeffgladchun
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Given what I've read of your posts on this site regarding your battle to fight BPS, do these swings have anything in particular to do with that?
You should blame especially Augusta National. And look who other short hitters they've let win in recent years.
But overall PGA tour may have done something, since in recent years on average top 10 money winners have the worst driving accuracies (but are not the longest).
Add about 30 yards for today's equipment. Still average by today's standards as it was then.
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jeffgladchun
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If you really feel like that then you have to be ready to bring back the speed of the ball and limit driver dimensions.
aaron_lohan
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Deadly scope has said anybody can "tap it round a course" and be as accurate as a Faldo, if thats the case why don't all these long hitters just bunt their irons and driver and win 6 majors like Faldo.
aaron_lohan
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Theres a 1999 Duval swing on youtube filmed after a practice round at the USPGA championship where he was 8 under through 13 holes.
Deadly_Scope
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These days Augusta National advantages left handers more than anyone else.
Deadly_Scope
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Think about this for a minute.
Clubs hitting shorter = smaller difference between the longer and shorter striker.
Clubs hitting longer = bigger difference between the longer and shorter striker.
Kevin Shields
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Why do you think so? I dont see the correlation?
I like them because ive seen virtually every top player hit it live and these two were head and shoulders above anyone ive ever seen.
Richie3Jack
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Duval's swing back then was awesome. I actually think his current swing is pretty close to his old swing, he just now closes the face way too much.
Faldo was hitting a ton of greens, flagging a lot of shots with different clubs in his bag. When he was in his best golf, he was also putting lights out. I could see an argument for a Faldo-type player if they were not a good ballstriker and won thru putting. But Faldo was accurate and precise with all of the clubs in his bag and hit a lot of greens.
3JACK
Faldo was hitting a ton of greens, flagging a lot of shots with different clubs in his bag. When he was in his best golf, he was also putting lights out. I could see an argument for a Faldo-type player if they were not a good ballstriker and won thru putting. But Faldo was accurate and precise with all of the clubs in his bag and hit a lot of greens.
3JACK
That's what makes sports interesting it can be done in many different ways by many different types. Faldo was one of those and all those power players in his era had their opportunity to win Majors they all played the same courses and i remember Norman having a 6 shot lead at the Masters, and...?
I know they should have given Norman the trophy because Faldo shouldn't have won because he's a short hitter,
Whaaat the f....? Goofy. Life's not fair and neither is sports, deal with it.
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birly-shirly
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I watched some of the Tour de France today and was really amazed by the cyclists' fitness, speed and stamina. Everyone in the event is fit enough to go hard at it day after day for 3 weeks, with perhaps 2 days off in total.
Now look at tennis. As athletes, they are nowhere in the same league as cyclists. They may be a little bit fitter and stronger than your average PGA Tour golfer but by any stretch of the imagination they are definitely not athletes on the level of being able to cycle round France at high speed up and down mountains day after day without rest. They're fatties too...
I want to see tennis as a sport played by athletes. Why should the court be level and only 78 feet long? This clearly panders to the lazy but skillful, unathletic, players. A tennis court should be 120 miles long with an elevation of maybe 3000 feet. That would sort the men from the boys. No more tip tapping it across the net where the other guy can just step across and reach it. Let's make him run - for maybe 6 hours. And the day after, and the day after that. And drop shots? I just hate that anyone can get away with that limp wristed stuff. Anyone can be accurate when the deck is stacked against the real clobbering brutes, all it takes is practice, and skill, and half a life of coaching, and judgement, and composure....
Stupid game, eh?
jeffgladchun
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Thanks Kevin, I was just wondering if there was any correlation.
rogerdodger
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golf as a pure athletic endeavour, easy, eliminate putting, and make the golfer hit the ball one second after arriving at it. Further, the golfer must run full speed to the ball and finish eighteen holes in an hour.
birly-shirly
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good idea roger.
come to think of it, why should we persist with sending golfers off in groups of 2 or 3?
let's have a mass start - and the first one to get round the course and drive their ball through the clubhouse window is the winner.
if golf is going to be taken seriously as an olympic sport, then this is how it should look. unfortunately, we may need to allow the players to wear shorts...
come to think of it, why should we persist with sending golfers off in groups of 2 or 3?
let's have a mass start - and the first one to get round the course and drive their ball through the clubhouse window is the winner.
if golf is going to be taken seriously as an olympic sport, then this is how it should look. unfortunately, we may need to allow the players to wear shorts...
ZAP
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Faldo has only a few more majors than the posters on this board. For a few years he was absolutely amazing in terms of controlling his ball. Then he tried to get longer off the tee and it went downhill. I think we all have an inner clock or whatever that governs our swing tempo and speed somewhat. Try making Nick Price swing like Els. Just my 2 cents.
mgranato
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The players who make a living playing golf have been, are, and will always be small to average sized. Golf does not attract the "best" athletes because there is no advantage to being bigger, stronger, faster standing over a stationary ball or stroking a putt. The idea that the Kobe/Labron type athletes will eventually populate the Tour's is silly to me.
Top golf is ultimately about a certain high level of precision. If a better athlete can add to that raw power, then he will always have an advantage. But more often then not, it will be a trade-off. As much as there is to learn from Sadlowski's movements, he doesn't play golf for a living.
Top golf is ultimately about a certain high level of precision. If a better athlete can add to that raw power, then he will always have an advantage. But more often then not, it will be a trade-off. As much as there is to learn from Sadlowski's movements, he doesn't play golf for a living.
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