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twitch127

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If a guy walked into your golf school and has never played golf before what are the first 3 things you would teach (in order)

I know the responses will vary from person to person but it should be an interesting read and a good debate!!

I'll take my shot

1. Explain the design and function of the golf club (ie. the club is designed for impact alignments not address alignments ie butt end should lead the clubhead and inclined shaft angle from ground - lie angle)

2. Create a swing shape (let them just swing the club but try and not violate #1) (if they can only make very small swings doing this, then this is where they start)

3. Create a source of power (as they swing the club they should become aware of what power source is "powering" the club ie (accumulator no# being transported by the pivot)

If they know how the club is meant to be used and do not violate the design to badly, have a swing shape and a source of power then they can play golf!

What your philosophy!! :)


Twitch
 
cmartingolf

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Blank canvas? Where are they from Mars?

If that were the case and they didn't bring preconceived ideas to the lesson...

Hmmmm, gotta think on this a bit. I'll get back to you.

Only three, eh?
 
StewartBannatyne

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That's a tough question, but here's what I'd probably do (same thing I do with juniors if I'm trying to help them).

1. Teach them a good grip
2. Teach them to hit the ground
3. Teach them to finish in a "PGA-Tour" like finish position (well balanced on their left side).

From there, if you can ingrain these three ideas, everything else begins to take shape, in my opinion!

Stew
 
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Kevin Shields

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1. Point the shaft
2. Square the face
3. Sling the clubhead

I say this because if I could go into a time machine and be 13 again, this is all the info I wouldve needed.
 
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pecky987

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1. show them what a divot is. let them try to do it. once they cant ...
2. show them how to make a proper backswing. then when their struggling to get fluidity and control...
3. the back-and-forth swinging drill. gets a good pivot goin straight away, teaches weight shift, good arm motion, decent plane and a decent lagging club in change of direction. and if they can incorporate the fact they have to take a divot infront of the ball, now they have a method which they can achieve it
 
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Clearwater

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3

1. Weight forward
2. Hips forward on the downswing
3. Hand path moving in

Why not teach everyone how to hook hit the ground and hook it???
 
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Brian Manzella

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The First Three Things

1. Very briefly, without much talking about it, while I was making them comfortable, I would show them the grip, and show them a VERY BASIC posture and VERY, VERY basic stance. Total time elapsed, less than 5 minutes.

2. I would show them how to do the back and forth drill, ala "The Soft Draw Pattern." Looking for neck-high to neck-high, with something resembling a basic pivot. VERY FEW WORDS about WHAT TO DO, not too many about how. You are learning THEM right now. Goal, to scrape the ground going and coming somewhere between the feet. Total time taken for #2—no more than 5 more minutes.

2b. If needed, and it almost always is, I would introduce a little twistaway going back, and a left thumb under finish. This would be the first time I would have them make one swing at a time, but it wouldn't have them "one swing" every time yet. Total time taken for #3—no more than 5 more minutes. 15 minutes MAX elapsed time.

3. I'd let 'em take a shot at hitting one. Some swings I have them do the "two-swing drill" which is the "back and Forth" drill with a ball hit on the first of two forward swings. As we do this, I would be reviewing everything else we have done, WITHOUT making a fuss about it! I'd be adjusting all sorts of thing WITHOUT TELLING THEM MUCH ABOUT It, just a little word or tow along the way.

First decent looking swing that produce a ball divot contact and got airbourne....average time....18 minutes.

A lot less if I am in a race. ;)

Now, I know what some of you are thinking....this is TOO easy, too vague, too non-technical....yup....it is....but so is painting with water colors on canvas.
 
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Kevin Shields

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Kevin Shields said:
1. Point the shaft
2. Square the face
3. Sling the clubhead

I say this because if I could go into a time machine and be 13 again, this is all the info I wouldve needed.
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The back and forth drill is great for one and three - shape and sling. Then a twist to a thumb under finish for #2
 
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holeout

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Brian Manzella said:
1. Very briefly, without much talking about it, while I was making them comfortable, I would show them the grip, and show them a VERY BASIC posture and VERY, VERY basic stance. Total time elapsed, less than 5 minutes.

2. I would show them how to do the back and forth drill, ala "The Soft Draw Pattern." Looking for neck-high to neck-high, with something resembling a basic pivot. VERY FEW WORDS about WHAT TO DO, not too many about how. You are learning THEM right now. Goal, to scrape the ground going and coming somewhere between the feet. Total time taken for #2—no more than 5 more minutes.

2b. If needed, and it almost always is, I would introduce a little twistaway going back, and a left thumb under finish. This would be the first time I would have them make one swing at a time, but it wouldn't have them "one swing" every time yet. Total time taken for #3—no more than 5 more minutes. 15 minutes MAX elapsed time.

3. I'd let 'em take a shot at hitting one. Some swings I have them do the "two-swing drill" which is the "back and Forth" drill with a ball hit on the first of two forward swings. As we do this, I would be reviewing everything else we have done, WITHOUT making a fuss about it! I'd be adjusting all sorts of thing WITHOUT TELLING THEM MUCH ABOUT It, just a little word or tow along the way.

First decent looking swing that produce a ball divot contact and got airbourne....average time....18 minutes.

A lot less if I am in a race. ;)

Now, I know what some of you are thinking....this is TOO easy, too vague, too non-technical....yup....it is....but so is painting with water colors on canvas.
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Brian,

My girlfriend wants me to teach her how to play. This is dangerous ground to tread upon, I know, so I'm curious if I should use these three steps to start her off right. What do you think? Any adjustments? Did you teach Lisa to play at all?

Thanks in advance :) .
 
StewartBannatyne

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I just had a lady come in to the shop I work at for a fitting. She had never played golf before and was looking for some pointers on what to do. I used the three things I mentioned in my post, and introduced her to the back and forth drill, and sure enough, little compressed 8 irons that probably were travelling 50 or 60 yards if we were outside.

Thanks Brian! ;)

Stew
 
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Brian Manzella

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StewartBannatyne said:
I just had a lady come in to the shop I work at for a fitting. She had never played golf before and was looking for some pointers on what to do. I used the three things I mentioned in my post, and introduced her to the back and forth drill, and sure enough, little compressed 8 irons that probably were travelling 50 or 60 yards if we were outside.

Thanks Brian! ;)

Stew
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If the playing thing doesn't work out, you may have a new career.

[Warning!: It is a brutal business. Even the law is less brutal]
 
huestisc

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Anything different for little kids?

Brian,

I remember a few years ago you were asked what you would do to teach little kids...at the time you talked about going to a bunker, drawing a line in the middle of their feet, and making swings with contact ahead of that line, then when they can do it, introduce the ball. Would you still do this, or has this changed with the evolution in your swing ideas over the past few years?

Would you do the 3 steps you mentioned above for little kids, or do anything different?

Just curious, since my little ones (5 and 3 years old) show an interest in the game and sometimes come to the range with me...I'm certainly not pushing them at this stage, but if they tag along I want to get them heading as much as possible in the right direction.

Clay
 
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twitch127

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Nice question Huestisc :)

Brian,

I know everyone in the golf industry uses/borrows everyone elses stuff - I mean the first golf instruction book written - the Golfer's manual is a long time published (1857) but did you get the idea of the back and forwards drill off an English Chap called John Jacobs?


Where are the Fred Shoemarkers of this forum - Guitar Hero has some different ideas - Bravo !!

Anyone got some different thoughts to Brian's -

Twitch
 
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Brian Manzella

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twitch127 said:
Nice question Huestisc :)

Brian,

I know everyone in the golf industry uses/borrows everyone elses stuff - I mean the first golf instruction book written - the Golfer's manual is a long time published (1857) but did you get the idea of the back and forwards drill off an English Chap called John Jacobs?
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You are completely missing the point of my post.

As far as borrowing the drill, surely the guy that wrote that book saw someone else do it.

The POINT of my post was this:

I have started new golfers 100's of different ways. Too many to mention.

The way I posted works the best for me.....

But NOT because of the what I am doing. Get it?
 
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