Bobby Clampett "Impact Zone" initial review

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Beware of the Gold Bracelet

Thanks to Mr. Clampett for his uncommon candor and wisdom! Clampett's most profound insight was to beware of the Gold Bracelet wearing golf pro who promises the next sure fire great swing. When Clampett courageously talks of having a classic case of "Rabbit Ears" he demonstrates the ultimate in earnest humility and proves he wants us to learn from his mistakes. He strayed from the course of his mentor’s instruction, lost his game then returned to the principles he learned from Doyle. Clampett now preaches to those who will listen how to focus on what really matters in an effect golf game—thanks and great job!
 
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A Great Read

Finally the Impact Zone reaches England, this is truly a great read, and a credit to all involved, cant believe some of you in the US were reading this during the Masters, I got mine today and am reading it during the Players!!
Hey Steve, you got to go easy on the Starbucks!!!
 
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four barrels said:
It is amazing to me to see a lot of guys who criticise Ben Doyle and his great work jump right on board the bandwagon and praise Bobby Clampetts book.

Come on you two faced morons Credit where credit is due: Bobby could not have written that book without Ben Doyle in fact you probably would have never heard of him.

Bobby emphasised dynamics yet these bandwagon TGM fakes teach positions and switting anyway.

Great job Bobby, I cant wait for a book to be realesed from one of these guys so called models, but dont try and justify your junk via Clampett because its not the same and you all know it!
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Who are the two-faced morons?
 
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Leek said:
Who are the two-faced morons?
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Anyone who criticises Ben Doyle but took lessons from him, then their ego got too big and they felt that they had to reinvent the wheel and put their brand on it. They now say Clampett's book is great. What a contradiction.

I love Clampett's book I give credit where credit is due.:cool:

Stick with the truth here at Manzella Golf Forum, Brian may come across as a big headed Italian but he is quite the opposite in real life and has ethics morals and integrity, traits unheard of with some other instructors that have bastardised TGM:eek: .
 
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Coffee Time!

Ian Clark said:
Finally the Impact Zone reaches England, this is truly a great read, and a credit to all involved, cant believe some of you in the US were reading this during the Masters, I got mine today and am reading it during the Players!!
Hey Steve, you got to go easy on the Starbucks!!!
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Have just finished my 4th ristreto(esspresso) at coffee shop, when you come down under I will shout you a coffee or two:D
 
birdie_man

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Not sure how Bobby words it but......YOU can be HITTING down (with grip end like Brian says) but the clubhead can be MOVING up. ("shaft kick")
 
cmartingolf

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I've been a fan of Ben Doyle's sand drills for years and use it with students. Clampett's book inspired me to make a video for my club membership (I'm a club pro). I post videos for them from time to time. Very few golfers can do this drill well. Ben Doyle being the master:)

If you care to watch here you go. It opened a big can of worms for my "flipping" open-faced membership. Sorry about the sound.


PC
http://www.mediamax.com/arrowcreekmovies/Hosted/video/LowPoint.wmv

Mac
http://www.mediamax.com/arrowcreekmovies/Hosted/video/LowPoint.mov
 
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four barrels said:
Anyone who criticises Ben Doyle but took lessons from him, then their ego got too big and they felt that they had to reinvent the wheel and put their brand on it. They now say Clampett's book is great. What a contradiction.

I love Clampett's book I give credit where credit is due.:cool:

Stick with the truth here at Manzella Golf Forum, Brian may come across as a big headed Italian but he is quite the opposite in real life and has ethics morals and integrity, traits unheard of with some other instructors that have bastardised TGM:eek: .
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Hmmm..I guess I never saw their claims or posts.

As far as Brian goes, I don't find him big headed, just passionate about his profession.
 
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YOU are hitting down. (if the shaft is leaning forward) Not the clubHEAD.

It's just a matter of wording.
 
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Down, out and through are the words as I understand them, and in that order. Changing ball position and tee height seems to be the only other factor to be concerned with, aside from equipment.

It just seems to me that the clubhead will always be moving down until it isn't. To suggest hitting down on the ball could cause a lot of folks to come OTT. To suggest hitting up on the ball could create big pushes.

So, understanding the sequence of the three words would be more important, imo, than hitting up or down on the ball. It just seems to be confusing the issue of good shot making...regardless of what it looks like on high speed video.
 
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Matt F. said:
Because the grip is leaning forward DOESN'T mean you are hitting down on it. I can hold the club off ‘til past waist height and my hands are still ahead of the club, am I still hitting down on it? Hitting down on a golf ball produces spin, why in the world would you want to put more spin on the golf ball for long drives, unless you have no swing speed. Just try this: take your driver and get into your impact position and hover the club off the ground a smidge and try to bottom it out four inches, which would be approx. the outside of your foot. If you can do that without changing your angles I might reconsider my position. Again just because the hands are leading means nothing, I could say well my left shoulder is going up and out so I am hitting up and out on the ball, see my point, it has to be what the club head is doing. I think what Clampett said will hurt the high handicappers, I see them all the time teeing it low and hitting down with the driver and some even take divots.
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Interesting point. I suggest you look at impact photos from guys on the Long Drive circuit. Almost all of them are hitting down at impact.
 
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Matt F. said:
Maybe I am missing something...if we want to call it hitting down if the hands are in front of the ball, I guess we could say that we hit down on our putts too.
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Has nothing to do with the hands in front of the ball. Yes, the hands are in front, yes the left wrist is flat. One could do that and still swing up! They are hitting down! I'll post a pic. Meanwhile check out this thread with pics of Watson and Sutton

http://www.brianmanzella.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4959&highlight=driver
 
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Here you go. I can't figure out how to post a pic in here, but Brian did a post with pics of David Mobley the long driver champion of last year.

You can see the pics with proof he is hitting down in the thread titled:This ENDS all the DRIVER hits up or down debate!

Brian posted
"This is it. You hit down on it. Period. The lines drawn on pic one are PRECISE and the LOW POINT LINE is as FAR B-A-C-K as it could humanly possibly be.

There is no debate.

But...here is what the GOOFY hit up on it crowd will say anyway
(I'll save them the time)....

"He MAY have the shaft leaning forward but he could still; be hitting up on it. You need a launch monitor to tell for sure."

Bull****!

No chance. Anyone with a brain and a compass could see he would break the shaft trying to drop kick it.

"It isn't OPTIMIUM. The launch monitors say..."

Bull****!

This guy BEAT all of those guys. Soon, they'll all figure out how to pick a DRIVER THAT FITS and they'll hit down TOO!"


Go read the post and thread

http://www.brianmanzella.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4990&highlight=driver
 
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Matt F. said:
You have to excuse me, I'm new here, I wouldnt of posted about the driver debate if I would of known it was a sore spot...Anyways, enough highjacking of this thread. I am about finished with the Clampett book if anyone wants to trade for say a Hogan's five lessons.
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I don't think it's a sore spot. It has been debated here, Brian proved his point.
 
birdie_man

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Leek,

Brian was pretty set on that back then....I can understand why...........I think some stuff has changed since then though....mandrin and the whole "Can you really add mass to the hit?" debate.

Brian can explain if he wants.........(he'll prolly flip out when he sees this debate again lol)....I don't feel I know well enough to jump out and tell everyone how it is......so hopefully he will.

Anyway.....its not a big deal.....the only thing that throws people in this whole discussion is understanding there are 2 seperate parts:

1. what the clubHEAD is doing....whether it actually IS moving up
2. what YOU are doing.....REGARDLESS of what the clubHEAD is doing

This is what I've been trying to get across. Seperate things really......so when someone says "Blah blah hitting down"......well....clubhead MOVING down?....or the golfer hitting down? (even though the clubhead may be moving up due to shaft kick)

That's how I understand it right now......
 
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cmartingolf said:
I've been a fan of Ben Doyle's sand drills for years and use it with students. Clampett's book inspired me to make a video for my club membership (I'm a club pro). I post videos for them from time to time. Very few golfers can do this drill well. Ben Doyle being the master:)

If you care to watch here you go. It opened a big can of worms for my "flipping" open-faced membership. Sorry about the sound.


PC
http://www.mediamax.com/arrowcreekmovies/Hosted/video/LowPoint.wmv

Mac
http://www.mediamax.com/arrowcreekmovies/Hosted/video/LowPoint.mov
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CM,

I'm a fan of Ben's as well. What a great drill and aiming point explanation. Always nice to see Ben's "stuff" getting put out for there for the masses.

Looks like your membership has a good steward working to help them with their games.

Robbo
 
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Thanks!

Glad you enjoyed the vid. The drill is great for dynamics and puts a red circle around your flaws! Chops HATE practicing it.
 
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