Elkington's Swing

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Tiltswing

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I believe Elkington is working with Ben Doyle now, so I wondered if you tgm guys would have any insight on this topic. There is a thread on Golfwrx which claims Elkington doesn't have a very good swing because he "backs-out of the shot" and "flips the club dtl." I think this is called dual horizontal hinging. Why does Elkington release the club this way and why does his head move so far backwards? Pictures are here:

Great Pre and Post Impact Pictures Of Elk - GolfWRX.com

Thanks in advance.
 
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mrose

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worth watching for the 6th pic down alone where he hits while the guy has only just put flag in. no f$%^ing around.

i heard Elk first went to Ben Doyle about ten years ago.
 
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rogerdodger

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Elk is a GSED and supposedly has more knowledge of the golfing machine than any other tour player. He has worked with O'Grady as well as primarily with Ben Doyle the last ten years or so. He primarily hits a fade, which explains his release action. His backing out movement is an attempt to keep the ball from going left. Combined with his release, it seems to insure a slight fade with every shot. His tempo is very good.
 
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I watched Elk in a practice round about a month ago. He hit a small push draw every shot except for a couple straight pushes with iron shots. Probably shot 6 under. Impressive display.
 
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rogerdodger said:
Elk is a GSED and supposedly has more knowledge of the golfing machine than any other tour player. He has worked with O'Grady as well as primarily with Ben Doyle the last ten years or so. He primarily hits a fade, which explains his release action. His backing out movement is an attempt to keep the ball from going left. Combined with his release, it seems to insure a slight fade with every shot. His tempo is very good.
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You should read his book very basic stuff, probably like most players wants to feel the stroke more than use mechanical thoughts.
 
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Brian Manzella

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I read the whole stupid thread, and although Laville got some of his analysis right (and others parts wrong), it is a stupid thread.

It was like taking a time machine back 4 years.

In my life, in my work, in my research, 4 years ago is a LIFETIME.
 
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The thing I'll always remember is watching Elk do his Stack & Tilt drills at the 2005 PGA when he was in contention. The funny thing is he had more axis tilt pre-impact than he had in the 1995 PGA.
 
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Tiltswing

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Elkington was 8th in GIRs in 2005, even though I would've expected the extra fall-back to be bad for his ball-striking.
 
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Kevin Shields

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Tilt, I wasn't saying I don't loooove his swing. It's one of my favs. Watching him do that reminded me of the time I played a mini tour event with Mike Bennett in 01 and got the whole run down. So I knew it was kind of an anti-under plane kind of a move. So to see Elk swing more in to out than ever doing those drills just got me thinking, thats all.
 
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Kevin Shields said:
Tilt, I wasn't saying I don't loooove his swing. It's one of my favs. Watching him do that reminded me of the time I played a mini tour event with Mike Bennett in 01 and got the whole run down. So I knew it was kind of an anti-under plane kind of a move. So to see Elk swing more in to out than ever doing those drills just got me thinking, thats all.
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I was not trying to say that I had a problem with your first comment. If you did think that, sorry for the miscommunication. I was trying to say that I expected the extra head movement in Elk's swing to negatively affect his ball striking, and was surprised the S&T drills etc. seemed to help him. Sorry for the mistake.
 
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Hogan is often used as the "model" when it comes to golf swings. I wonder if Elk might be just as good if not a better "model" that Ben.
 
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mrose

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[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM0GHD4Y8h8[/media]

sorry for the repost as i've put this up before i think. i took it in late 2003 and he was hitting pretty big draws that day. on this video you can picture it starting out at the right trap and coming back. it was a long par 3.

i'm not so sure about now but in years past he had to stand about 45 degrees open to have any chance of fading it. there were many examples of that in the 95 PGA.
 
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Hi Tilt,
Elk's alignments are pretty darn good. His tempo..superb. I just prefer it as model. I understand that Hogan is GOD to some on here and to say anything that may make him more mortal is a sin.....but alas.........I have sinned Father.
And I will really sin now and say this...Sergio Garcia may have a better swing than both. golfer24.that should put a stir to your tea ! And btw golfer24..answer Kevin's question.
 
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dale47 said:
Sergio Garcia may have a better swing than both.
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Sergio has hit it fat too many times under pressure for his swing to be considered better than anyone who has won the career grand slam.

that other guy thinks that quote is "ridiculous" because Elkington has 10 wins with one major while Hogan had 9 majors and 64 total wins. Golf isnt all the full swing, but a player's record is still something of a reflection of their full swing.
 
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I agree about Sergio to a point. He does hit fat at times.......BUT HE"S ONLY IN HIS 20's.
His Ryder Cup record speaks for itself,,,,,,,and that PRESSURE!
I don't have the privledge of seeing or watching every golf event going on but when I do,man for man the annoucers seem to be in agreement that Sergio is the best ballstriker out there. But then again I just saw some still pictures of Mike Finneys swing.........AWESOME!!
 
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