Feeling the sweet spot

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I've heard this term or a variation of this term several times in relation to pp#3. What exactly does this mean- is it merely knowing where the clubhead is at all times or the clubhead as well the relationship of the clubhead face to the swing plane?
 
It's about using PP#3 (meaty pad between knuckle and first joint of right forefinger) to feel you're driving the sweetspot, as opposed to feeling and driving the clubshaft. When you accelerate the shaft rather than the sweetspot, you get a shank.

Homer felt strongly that all plane variations should relate to the sweetspot plane, not the clubshaft plane, although for practical purposes they are equally dependable.

Both the sweetspot plane and clubshaft plane go through PP#3.

Using a Strong Single Action grip with PP#3 on the aft side of shaft helps too.

Swingers commonly complain that they don't feel the sweetspot during the startdown. That's because they have their left wrist turned (Standard Wrist Action) on the face of the inclined plane, so PP#3 has been rotated a quater turn to the top of the shaft, rather than the aft. However during the release swivel (uncock then roll) before impact, PP#3 returns to the aft side of the shaft. If it doesn't, then you're not feeling the sweetspot (shank)!
 
#3 pressure point is aware of the sweetspot i.e. the center of gravity line through the clubface. It's a "clubhead" awareness and not a clubface awareness. Yes, it's sensing where the clubhead is at all times- it does not monitor the clubface alignment.

Standard Wrist Action is the result of independent forearm rotation, as opposed to no forearm rotation and the upper arms and body creating the rotation. It has nothing to do with 1/4 turn- although it is a common misconception on TGM forums. Which is completely understandable due to Mr. Kelley's poor communication skills- that's my own personal opinion- I understand that some will consider his communication skills excellent. Just pointing out that not all blame of mis-understanding should rest with the student.

In regards to the left wrist, both hitters and swingers get to the same place at the top, they just can get there differently. It's the loading direction that creates the load moving from the aft side of the grip to the top of the grip - (aft to top= 1/4 of a turn around the grip)

When you come back down to impact the pressure may stay on top or move back to the aft side (more common), but in either case as long as you have lag - you would still be sensing the sweetspot.
 

SOS

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quote:Originally posted by Mike O


When you come back down to impact the pressure may stay on top or move back to the aft side (more common), but in either case as long as you have lag - you would still be sensing the sweetspot.

Mike O,

Your description sounds pretty good to me and is well written - nice job. Are you sure about the last part though? How can you sense the sweetspot when if the pressure stays on top? Would not that produce a shank?

SOS
 

rundmc

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quote:Originally posted by Mike O

#3 pressure point is aware of the sweetspot i.e. the center of gravity line through the clubface. It's a "clubhead" awareness and not a clubface awareness. Yes, it's sensing where the clubhead is at all times- it does not monitor the clubface alignment.

Mike,

Great post as always. I think this is a very important distinction. PP3 monitoring CLUBHEAD and not CLUBFACE. What precisely should be monitored though? That the CLUBHEAD is behind the hands and being driven down plane?

Also with Standard Wrist action is it more important to monitor PP3 or the uncocking of the left wrist as the left hand is turned to the face of the plane?

Thanks!

R
 
quote:Originally posted by SOS

quote:Originally posted by Mike O


When you come back down to impact the pressure may stay on top or move back to the aft side (more common), but in either case as long as you have lag - you would still be sensing the sweetspot.

Mike O,

Your description sounds pretty good to me and is well written - nice job. Are you sure about the last part though? How can you sense the sweetspot when if the pressure stays on top? Would not that produce a shank?

SOS

We are discussing page 169- last two paragraphs. If you're hitting/ thrusting and the #3PP ends up on top- you would have some serious problems, but in swinging you're not thrusting #3PP but merely sensing. And remember that the actual hand alignments have not changed, you've just gone from 10-2-B to 10-2-A. But I see your apparent dilemma- give it some time.
 
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quote:Originally posted by Mike O

#3 pressure point is aware of the sweetspot i.e. the center of gravity line through the clubface. It's a "clubhead" awareness and not a clubface awareness. Yes, it's sensing where the clubhead is at all times- it does not monitor the clubface alignment.

Mike,

Great post as always. I think this is a very important distinction. PP3 monitoring CLUBHEAD and not CLUBFACE. What precisely should be monitored though? That the CLUBHEAD is behind the hands and being driven down plane?

That's it- or put in slightly different terms- 6-C-2-0-... "to sense Clubhead Acceleration rate and direction"
 
quote:Originally posted by rundmc

quote:Originally posted by Mike O

#3 pressure point is aware of the sweetspot i.e. the center of gravity line through the clubface. It's a "clubhead" awareness and not a clubface awareness. Yes, it's sensing where the clubhead is at all times- it does not monitor the clubface alignment.

Mike,

Also with Standard Wrist action is it more important to monitor PP3 or the uncocking of the left wrist as the left hand is turned to the face of the plane?

Thanks!

R

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Although there is always some latitude- understand that strictly speaking Standard Wrist Action isn't something that you do- it's a result of the acceleration method being used (swinging). Going back and coming down.
 
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