Foley on golf channel
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islandgolf629
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I think the glass made him look more artsy than nerdy. Kind of reminded me of Lisa Loeb.
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softconsult
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I took the glasses as a prop for the show, but I don't think that was the case.
I think I'm just viewing it through old style eyes. Saw the clip of him teaching
Tiger and he has the same style on only in shades. That may be an "in" style
for all I know.
I think I'm just viewing it through old style eyes. Saw the clip of him teaching
Tiger and he has the same style on only in shades. That may be an "in" style
for all I know.
Michael Finney
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I think I like most of the upgrades since Haney.........except the occasional helicopter finish.....drives me nuts and it looks so forced when any of them do it
Virtuoso
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Totally agree: Brian does it right. And the dark tunnel can be very long...had to find my way out with a cigarette lighter.
Foley, hmmm. Don't know, might be a great teacher.....might know just enough to be dangerous. Is he a specialist or has he just read the cliffs notes on everything: meta-physics, nuerology, nuero-science, bio-mechanics, physics.......PHILOSOPHY......and philosophy, and um, philosophy?
He says he needs to have similar values to work with someone, and then, when it's pointed out that Tiger make lack a little there, he says,"Who am I to judge? My father told me to look at myself in the mirror for an hour...." etc, etc.
Each person in my life that went out of their way to tell me how important humilty is, turned out to be the least humble people I ever met.
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Todd Dugan
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He DID say that the ball starts off at nearly a right angle to the clubface. I suspect that he got that straight from Plummer & Bennett, who got it straight from TGM. Except, with an iron, the ball starts off in a direction which is 75% of the difference between Clubface and Path, favoring Clubface. I wouldn't call 75% "nearly 100%".
Other Foley-isms that deserve review.....
The "circle" concept. Again, eerily similar to the S&T boy's "circle" concept, who, again, based theirs on TGM. Both camps seem to jump between describing the "point of tangency" as the point at which the clubhead arc touches the Plane Line (Low Point), but also the point at which the clubhead arc touches the Target Line. Not the same thing. So fades are NOT simply struck on the "front side" of the circle. Instead, the circle, or more aptly, CIRCULAR ARC, should lie on the face of an inclined plane with a different horizontal direction....more leftward. A ball lying on the turf should be struck before Low Point, on the "backside" of the REAL circle, which is the one you trace ....even when fading. Or how about a driver hit on the upswing with a draw? Frontside of the circle.
Oh...and "with a neutral grip and the hands forward, the face is open"????? Really? Does that mean that I can't square the clubface to the Target Line at impact with a neutral grip and my hands forward? I'm afraid that this doesn't even make sense. He demonstrates this by pushing his hands forward at address and showing you that the clubface opens as a result. Except if you do this on a plane board, the clubface doesn't open. The face only opens if your hands come up off the plane and you change the angle of the left wrist to the Plane Line. Besides, for a draw, the clubface is closed on the plane at impact, not open. The ball doesn't know where the Target Line is. For a draw, the clubface is LESS open to the Plane Line than for a fade, NOT more.
He seems like a great guy. I just find a lot of what he says to be less than accurate.
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mjstrong
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I'm watching the episode right now. It looks like he bases his ideas on what "might" happen, but claims that it "will" happen.
(Paraphrasing) "If we have a flat shoulder turn going back, we will have to steepen our shoulders on the downswing if we want to hit down on the ball."
"If we come too far off the ball, we are forced to shift laterally back to the ball, and this will make the player come over the top."
Again, you never know what the guy actually thinks/believes if he's changing his material for his audience, but I do find him to be making statements that aren't necessarily correct.
(Paraphrasing) "If we have a flat shoulder turn going back, we will have to steepen our shoulders on the downswing if we want to hit down on the ball."
"If we come too far off the ball, we are forced to shift laterally back to the ball, and this will make the player come over the top."
Again, you never know what the guy actually thinks/believes if he's changing his material for his audience, but I do find him to be making statements that aren't necessarily correct.
mjstrong
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My final thought on his episode:
"I, still to this day, don't always know what's right, but I know what's wrong... ..."
It does seem like he's a truth seeker. I like that.
Who knows, maybe his career is progressing faster than his knowledge base. You can't blame a guy for that, as long as he keeps trying to learn.
"I, still to this day, don't always know what's right, but I know what's wrong... ..."
It does seem like he's a truth seeker. I like that.
Who knows, maybe his career is progressing faster than his knowledge base. You can't blame a guy for that, as long as he keeps trying to learn.
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Todd Dugan
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Yeah, what does THAT quote mean? Don't you have to know what's right to know what's wrong? I know what the position and movement of the clubface through the impact zone must be for a desired ball flight. Any technique pattern which can consistently produce those conditions is NOT wrong. Simple as that.
Absolutely.
Again, perhaps Foley serves up some pablum for the masses (and golf writers).
I hope he doesn't develop that helicopter finish.I don't think Foley teaches that fortunately.
In my opinion that finish is the result of trying to hold the right hand wedge too long which comes from the influence of TGM.You can see that in some of the SnT post impact drills.It is very forced and unnatural.
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