George Knudson

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EdZ

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One of the best swings, and one of the best books, ever written on the golf swing. I'd love to hear other opinions on his approach to the swing, and teaching. Who has read his book?
 
I have his book. His swing was beautiful. Smooth, free and easy.
His book is not technical. The book traces the discoveries he made in building his swing.
From young man to seasoned veteran. Including his emulation of Hogan.
 
knudson? - yes i too have read his book and watched his video many times - imo excellent instruction - my take on his main swing idea is that a swing results from a 'proper' tranfer of weight back and through - about 80% to the trail side on the back swing 'and' 100% on the lead foot to start the through swing - rotate to load i think he says - tension free - this seems to produce a short backswing - when applying this swing concept i always know when i have executed this move correctly because it results in a trail foot drag into the conclusion of the through swing - 'a proper finish assures the desired result' i think he says - one thing about knudson's instruction confuses me - he says the heels should always be aligned with the target and in fact in his video steps into a frame to illustrate this idea - i wonder if someone can explain why he says the heels should be aligned to the target when conventional instruction teaches that the toes should be aligned with the target line (square, open, or closed) - what is his message here? - my 2 cents worth - cj [B)]
 
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knudson? - yes i too have read his book and watched his video many times - imo excellent instruction - my take on his main swing idea is that a swing results from a 'proper' tranfer of weight back and through - about 80% to the trail side on the back swing 'and' 100% on the lead foot to start the through swing - rotate to load i think he says - tension free - this seems to produce a short backswing - when applying this swing concept i always know when i have executed this move correctly because it results in a trail foot drag into the conclusion of the through swing - 'a proper finish assures the desired result' i think he says - one thing about knudson's instruction confuses me - he says the heels should always be aligned with the target and in fact in his video steps into a frame to illustrate this idea - i wonder if someone can explain why he says the heels should be aligned to the target when conventional instruction teaches that the toes should be aligned with the target line (square, open, or closed) - what is his message here? - my 2 cents worth - cj [B)]
Because flaring the toes out can be misleading and may not align the front of the feet parallel to the target line.
 

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I believe he shoot a round of 65 (or so) with his eyes closed for executing every shot after setting it up. Go figure.
 
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I believe he shoot a round of 65 (or so) with his eyes closed for executing every shot after setting it up. Go figure.

Eyes closed practice....One of the most effective and overlooked training techniques to do. EVERYONE will benefit from this, from putting, chipping, pitching, fullswing. With eyes closed, you take away your biggest senses and you are forced to rely on FEEL. I use this drill at the beginning of EVERY practice session to FEEL what I intend to work on for that session. It helps ensure that I am doing the mover correctely. Most people, for example, dont coil properly. Well, close your eyes and coil and you can really tell if you are doing it properly.
 
bts wrote: I believe he shot a round of 65 (or so) with his eyes closed for executing every shot after setting it up. Go figure.

alas, in response to edz, my video was a gift from a friend a few years ago so i don't know where you can get a copy nowadays - i thought the video was so excellent that i purchased the book - also excellent - i seem to recall, that in the book knudson elaborates that the head has no function in the golf swing and even illustrates a headless golfer - very powerful imagery - he says there are two pivot points in the golf swing but the head is not one of them and stresses the need for balance throughout the swing - watching the video and seeing knudson demonstrate this connected, balanced, pivot 'and' pivot swing with ALL CLUBS i can see how he might indeed hit supurb shots with his eyes closed - the swing looks so simple - rotate to load 'and' transfer weight to the finishing position to unload - to create this motion it looks like he rotates his body into his right elbow to me - i'd like to know what others think of this observation - like hogan, knudson's wrists have set at the conclusion of the loading motion and then set even more as the weight transfers to his lead foot - i still puzzle over the heels alignment issue -

ragman wrote: Because flaring the toes out can be misleading and may not align the front of the feet parallel to the target line.

thanks ragman for the suggestion - ok, so why isn't alignment of the heels a more common instructional tip? - i also wonder what might be the pitfalls of aligning the heels to the target? - are there any? - i've actually gone so far as to use a frame to align my heels - it makes me feel as though i am aligned very right of the target whereas knudson says the shoulders should be slightly open to the target - very confusing - i have noticed, though, that aligning my heels seems to also align my left hip, knee, and foot which makes load and rotate to initiate the bs flow easily - using this method i've struck shots so purely that i've paused and said, "my gawd did i do that"? - taking it to the course when the wind is blowing and playing from uneven lies with a five dollar bet on the line is another matter - maybe more practice will help me learn to trust it - knudson also stresses (book and video) that in setting up for the shot, the ball should be played off the toe of the club face (not the centre of the club) - i'm not sure why - any explanations?
 
A picture you might appreciate...

what a thrill to see those pictures of knudson - didn't know they existed - thanks edz
 
I have a copy of his book and his tape.

I didn't like either one because they weren't technical enough for me.

I found his instruction to be too generic and frankly not very useful.

I really don't see how someone could learn to play golf from either his book or his tape.
 

EdZ

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quote:Originally posted by ftcmnc

I have a copy of his book and his tape.

I didn't like either one because they weren't technical enough for me.

I found his instruction to be too generic and frankly not very useful.

I really don't see how someone could learn to play golf from either his book or his tape.


And that, in a nutshell, is why many people don't play better golf - looking for details that aren't needed to swing well (nothing against you sir, just a general observation that your post highlights)

Do yourself a big favor, read it again, and really give it an honest read.... give it 6 range sessions. Do the drills he lists. Really do them. See the flag pole. 'Swing' the club to it.

And of course, pure BALANCE
 
While it may be good for some, the type of instruction in Knudson's book and tape simply doesn't work for me.

I come from a very analytical and technical background and Knudson's instruction just doesn't provide enough specific information for me.

I want to know the specifics of what the various components do and where they should be during the swing so that I can monitor them myself.

Knudson's instruction like most others simply doesn't provide the level of detail that I like.
 
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