Golf Magazine

[bhoganfan]

There is one guy in the article that took lessons from AJ and proudly states "I just flip my hands and the ball gets smaller and smaller" whatever that means.

BUT in this clip at www.golf.com/ajvideo.com AJ says its not a flip.

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Thanks again for the responses guys....

 

[bhoganfan]

Sorry guys, That links bad, I'll get it later when I get home. It was out of Golf Magazine I know that.

 

[birdie_man]

Go right ahead.

Cupped (Bent) to Slightly arched.

Sergio and Hogan do it.

Can't be all bad.

IF you can.

But I thought Hogan had flexible wrists?

 

[Bigwill]

Just a comment about the AJ stuff. Not to be an AJ apologist or anything, but I've seen his tapes, and I don't think that anything he advocates is out of left field. For one, he endorses swinging down with all clubs, including driver, making sure that the hands are ahead of the ball before impact; the clubface isn't supposed to be square at impact, and that the ball leaves the face at 90 degrees to the face angle(although he does believe that if the face is square at separation, the ball will start straight and curve left); and the hand action he advocates is basically the same thing that Hogan does, not a flip. The funny thing is, AJ's swing has a fairly flat left wrist at the top, and a flat left wrist past impact. I think that a lot of opinions have been formed on hearing info second hand, and are therefore attributing things to his swing theory that aren't there. By the way, I've tried his stuff, and the only thing that worked for me was hitting down on the ball.

 

[birdie_man]

Ya once I saw the whole vid (in this thread) I realized that he's teaching a full roll thru impact. Not bad at all really.

 

[mitchdoc]

My problem with Bonar promoting a cupped left wrist at the top and actually telling people to "flip their wrists through the ball", is that it is going to make a lot of slicers out there worse.

Actully he doesn't advocate a flip of the wrists but rather a full roll horizontal hinging. He implies that most slicers do so because they try to keep the face square to the target line through impact. he feels there is power with accuracy by starting from a weak(cupped position) and like hogan you can then agressively rotate through the ball without hooking it off the planet. He suggests if you are hooking it, it is because you started the roll too early

 

[Mac]

Actully he doesn't advocate a flip of the wrists but rather a full roll horizontal hinging. He implies that most slicers do so because they try to keep the face square to the target line through impact. he feels there is power with accuracy by starting from a weak(cupped position) and like hogan you can then agressively rotate through the ball without hooking it off the planet. He suggests if you are hooking it, it is because you started the roll too early

Yeah, that seems to be the crux of it. He wants the clubface open to the target line AND THE ARC coming into impact, and then he wants you to close it through impact with your hands. What's wrong with that? Isn't the clubhead a lever? The more you rotate it, the stronger the shot, assuming you time it right. Timing is the issue, but that's true no matter what your swing concept is. Golf is a hand-eye coordination game.

 

[Perfect Impact]

Many people fail to rotate the arms, perhaps unconsciously steering. So if the majority of golfers DO steer - even some of the best of them - it behooves them to INTENTIONALLY AND EXUBERANTLY AND EFFORTFULLY ROLL their arms. AJ's stuff fills that gap for those who fail to roll.

In between the lines is the not unmentioned FOR THOSE WHO NEED IT - because once that roll is embedded and the plane changed BECAUSE OF THE INSERTION OF that rolling action, THE NEW PLANE PRETTY MUCH DICTATES that futures swings do not need conscious rolling any more: it will be felt by THOSE golfers to be unnecessary, or actually disruptive. The dog must ALWAYS wag the tail.

 

[bhoganfan]

Actully he doesn't advocate a flip of the wrists but rather a full roll horizontal hinging. He implies that most slicers do so because they try to keep the face square to the target line through impact. he feels there is power with accuracy by starting from a weak(cupped position) and like hogan you can then agressively rotate through the ball without hooking it off the planet. He suggests if you are hooking it, it is because you started the roll too early

You can add Fred Couples to the list that have a slight cup (open face) at the top. In Freds book he advocactes the open face at the top for more power, because as he puts it "I can really whip my wrist through impact without fear of hitting a duck hook" he also sets up a hair open as well. When you see all 5' 11" 180 lbs of him at 48 years old with a tender back, hit 300 plus yard drives routinely, it does lend credence to to this type of release. His left wrist is ALWAYS flat at impact though.....