Hank Haney -- The Big Miss

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I think it is absolutely poor form by Haney.

Kiss and tell?

NEVER!

Absolutely.

If you are a professional, you know that it is absolutely wrong to "screw the client." This is Absolute Rule Number 1 of being a professional, in any line of work, anywhere, at any time.This rule can not be violated. Ever.

The Kiss-and-Tell book is more a grifter line of work than that of a professional. Are you a golf profesional or do you want to play in the Paris Hilton world of celebrity gossip?

In this case, "grifter" seems about right.
 
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SteveT

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Perhaps Haney is betting that Tiger's golf career is tanking; finished due to endemic injury and a messed up head.... so he's just cashing out on Tiger's woes and last golfing death throes, and still a public curiosity .... ya think..???!!!!
 

Damon Lucas

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Steve, you are a much smarter person than this thread's posts demonstrate. This book is terrible in it's pandering to entitled, lowest common denominator simpletons. Back to your interactions with Mandrin and Art and Brian.
 
Sorry Steve - I don't see much of the dog-pile being related to Tiger-lovers coming to his defense. It's much more that Haney's true-colors are being exposed. Hank could have written a juicy tell-all about ANY one of his stable of professionals and I'm guessing you'd see much of the same reaction. Oh...... that's right, he doesn't HAVE any other professional golfers in his stable to write about!!!

Perhaps a book about Barkley is next up.
 
Hank is decent at one thing-promoting Hank. He was never good at anything at least Tiger was good at golf before he inherited Hanks driver yips. That book is in bad taste and I will never read it.
LOL I am not even a Tiger fan!
Just look at what Haney did to try to help Ray Romano. nuff said
 

btp

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I'm still trying to figure out how Haney got results from Tiger and O'meara. If it wasn't for O'meara, I would say fluke or he worked with the most talented golfer ever who was in his prime. I can't quite throw his golf stuff under the bus due to the results of two major winners.
 
Interesting how the Haney-haters pile on to trash him because of their beloved Tiger.... but when I suggested, in another topic, that Mac O'Grady was koo-koo because of his reclusive nature, my post was deleted. Inconsistent standard..??!!!
Hate is a little strong but I don't care for either fwiw.
 

Jared Willerson

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I took the myers briggs too. Mine came back ENTP.

Based on the type of forum this is and what we are all trying to do, I would imagine a lot of people on this forum are NT's
 
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How many of you guys will read the book?

Haney certainly will take all the bullets for it being written, but that milk has already been spilt. It will provide an unprecedented look behind the most exclusive curtain in all of sports.
 
It might be "voodoo," but I just took the test and well....

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It reminds me of this:

"The concept of subjective validation was put to the test in 1948 by psychologist Bertram R. Forer. Forer gave a personality test to each of his students. Afterward, he told his students they were each receiving a unique personality analysis that was based on the test's results, and to rate their analysis on a scale of 0 (very poor) to 5 (excellent) on how well it applied to themselves.

The analysis presented to the students was as follows:

You have a great need for other people to like and admire you. You have a tendency to be critical of yourself. You have a great deal of unused capacity which you have not turned to your advantage. While you have some personality weaknesses, you are generally able to compensate for them. Disciplined and self-controlled outside, you tend to be worrisome and insecure inside. At times you have serious doubts as to whether you have made the right decision or done the right thing. You prefer a certain amount of change and variety and become dissatisfied when hemmed in by restrictions and limitations. You pride yourself as an independent thinker and do not accept others' statements without satisfactory proof. You have found it unwise to be too frank in revealing yourself to others. At times you are extroverted, affable, sociable, while at other times you are introverted, wary, reserved. Some of your aspirations tend to be pretty unrealistic. Security is one of your major goals in life.

The trick? In reality, each student received the exact same analysis: On average, the rating was 4.26/5 (that is, the students found their “personal” analysis to be 85% accurate). It was only after the ratings were turned in was it revealed that each student had received identical copies assembled by Forer from various horoscopes. "

Would you say that this describes BM:

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Usually have original minds and great drive for their own ideas and purposes. In fields that appeal to them, they have a fine power to organize a job and carry it through with or without help. Skeptical, critical, independent, determined, sometimes stubborn. Must learn to yield less important points in order to win the most important."


This is a characteristic of the
INTJ (introversion, intuition, thinking judgment), a.k.a. “The Scientist".


What do you want to be? Take your choice from the Myers-Briggs buffet. It is all good!
 
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ZAP

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It is difficult to put a person into a category really. We all like to be left alone sometimes. We all like to be part of a group sometimes.
We all see ourselves as thinkers.

I do think that this has some merit to it. The problem arises when it is taken too seriously. Understanding yourself and your own limitations and strengths is a big part of life IMHO.

But Haney is still a DOUCHE.:cool:
 

dbl

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Don't forget re Haney, in the book, he says when he got Woods as a student, he intuited that this would be the last pro he would ever teach.

And here's the nail in the coffin , if anyone had any doubts.
 
It is difficult to put a person into a category really. We all like to be left alone sometimes. We all like to be part of a group sometimes.
We all see ourselves as thinkers.

I do think that this has some merit to it. The problem arises when it is taken too seriously. Understanding yourself and your own limitations and strengths is a big part of life IMHO.

But Haney is still a DOUCHE.:cool:

I'm afraid to take the test, it might come out that I am a "douche" too!:eek:
 
It is difficult to put a person into a category really. We all like to be left alone sometimes. We all like to be part of a group sometimes.
We all see ourselves as thinkers.

I do think that this has some merit to it. The problem arises when it is taken too seriously. Understanding yourself and your own limitations and strengths is a big part of life IMHO.

Good points Eye. Meyers Briggs (MB) divides personalities into one thing or another (e.g. extraversion - introversion). The reality, as you point out, is that we can display both characteristics depending on things like mood and context. And although MB makes for a good parlour game it is toxic when used for things like career counselling and selecting job candidates. And it is used extensively for these purposes.

Understanding yourself is important but if you really want to find out how you are perceived ask your friends (those who will be honest with you - start with your wife or partner). And here MB could be valuable as a conversation starter. Show your partner or friend your MB results and ask what parts they agree or disagree with and why (BTW I am sure that people on other golf blogs will be doing exactly this with BM's results).
 
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