vjsinger
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I don't see it clearly on the BS, I think due to my large pivot, and I don't see it in the DS maybe due to my lack of pivot.
Head and neck interference
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I don't see it clearly on the BS, I think due to my large pivot, and I don't see it in the DS maybe due to my lack of pivot.
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I don't see it clearly on the BS, I think due to my large pivot, and I don't see it in the DS maybe due to my lack of pivot.
Yes, but is your b swing pulling your head around with it, so you lose sight of the ball?
vjsinger
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I think my shoulder turn does.
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Shoulder running into chin?
vjsinger
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Yep..IF I watch the ball.
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Well now you know where to start. Maybe shoulder under chin or just touching chin, but that might mess you up, i guess you can try a few things see what results you get.
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birdie_man
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Turns out I am right eye dominant!!
Man this is the worst news I've gotten since I discovered my left thumb does not bend back!!
It does explain why I turn my head to my right in my backswing though.
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Man this is the worst news I've gotten since I discovered my left thumb does not bend back!!
It does explain why I turn my head to my right in my backswing though.
-handicapped_man
Jared Willerson
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That was horrible news for me too. For some reason, when Nicklaus stated that you could never be a great ball striker with a straight thumb...it depressed me. But I think he was wrong, lots of good ball strikers don't have thumbs that bend backwards...Nobilo and Miller come immediately to mind.
Guys, guys,
I am at a loss understamding how eye dominance can make any difference at all in the golf swing (snooker and pool, yes, because you are sightinhg down a straight cue)...after all, even if you are right eye dominant and your head goes to the right, whereby your nose bridge will block the right eye view to the ball, your left eye can still see it, clearly, in focus.....
So in reality you are not losing sight of the ball's position at the top, so what on earth difference does it make.....your head tends to come back to "two-eyed" on the downswing anyway....
Don't get bogged down with negatives, FCS!.....
I am at a loss understamding how eye dominance can make any difference at all in the golf swing (snooker and pool, yes, because you are sightinhg down a straight cue)...after all, even if you are right eye dominant and your head goes to the right, whereby your nose bridge will block the right eye view to the ball, your left eye can still see it, clearly, in focus.....
So in reality you are not losing sight of the ball's position at the top, so what on earth difference does it make.....your head tends to come back to "two-eyed" on the downswing anyway....
Don't get bogged down with negatives, FCS!.....
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cmartingolf
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Hmmm, interesting about the eye dominance! I am definitely right eye dominant, and right handed. Cmartin, can you explain to me what disadvantage that is, and what can be done to work on those disadvantages? I know one thing I notice is that I have serious alignment issues when having to hit out to the right.
Your nose gets in the way of your direct vision of the ball, thus you don't turn fully. You can train this by blocking the vision of your dominant eye and letting your non-dominant eye track the ball in your backswing. I have students where sunglasses and block their dominant eye with some painters tape on the lens.
cmartingolf
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You wouldn't think it would be a big deal. It is...
I'm not saying that all right eye, right handers are screwed, just that they have to overcome something cross dominants don't.
If it wasn't something that stuck out like a sore thumb, I wouldn't brink it up. I'm sure there are some R/R's that let the ball track to the left eye without hiccup, but it is a problem for some talented players I've seen in the past.
I'm talking perfect "daisy clipping" practice swings, then restricted jacked up real swings??? Hmmm. I'm likely not the first golf pro to check this, but I started checking in 1994 after I was amazed with a guys warm up swing vs his actual swing. He was a 2 hdcp and could get it around.
Anyway, it's something for discerning teachers to keep in mind when working with students and may provide some solutions to players who wonder why they do "this or that" in their back swing.
ggsjpc
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Ok, so here's my question. As a right eye dominant, right handed player I get a little disadvantage on the way back but I think a greater advantage on way through because I can pivot harder and still see the ball. Wouldn't teaching right eye dominant, rh golfers to turn their head as part of their pivot a good idea?
I agree completely with martin that it isn't for everyone but it can really help. I've had great success with my students and get questioned about it a bunch. It just makes the pivot better. End of story for me.
I agree completely with martin that it isn't for everyone but it can really help. I've had great success with my students and get questioned about it a bunch. It just makes the pivot better. End of story for me.
welshdentist
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Which way would they turn the head? To the left to allow the ball to come into right eye dominant view, or to the right to put it into left eye field of view immediately?
ggsjpc
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To the left. So they can see while pivoting with more freedom.
birdie_man
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That's the spirit Jared. (my straight thumbed brethren)
And you can add Palmer to that list. (Jack always bugs him apparently)
Yo puttmad I agree but what's FCS?
This makes no sense a day later.
birdie_man
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That's very interesting. I do rotate my head to the left in my downswing.
Here's a good video showing the head swivel.
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cmartingolf
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That's a good one. Golfers look at me like I'm Martian, not Martin, when I talk about this...
ggsjpc
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I know what you mean...
I don't know how "keep your head down" has lasted so long. I get immediate results for same eye, same hand dominant players that struggle with their pivot. They hit it farther with a better flight and still as soon as they mishit one, "Whoops, better keep my head down".
It drives me crazy.
Glad to know I'm not the only 'Martian' out there....
I don't know how "keep your head down" has lasted so long. I get immediate results for same eye, same hand dominant players that struggle with their pivot. They hit it farther with a better flight and still as soon as they mishit one, "Whoops, better keep my head down".
It drives me crazy.
Glad to know I'm not the only 'Martian' out there....
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