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Yankeedoodle

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this is funny! swing tips from a bunch of guys who can't swing 1/10000th as well as the guy in the photos. i'm sure if you put an anonymous tour swing out there for you people to "critique", you'd be saying this and that for days to come. there's no perfect swing.
 
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efnef

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quote:Originally posted by Yankeedoodle

this is funny! swing tips from a bunch of guys who can't swing 1/10000th as well as the guy in the photos. i'm sure if you put an anonymous tour swing out there for you people to "critique", you'd be saying this and that for days to come. there's no perfect swing.
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And yet this is exactly why this thread was begun by the original poster(Redgoat), to solicit forum members input. :)
 
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DivotDelight

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quote:Originally posted by efnef

quote:Originally posted by Yankeedoodle

this is funny! swing tips from a bunch of guys who can't swing 1/10000th as well as the guy in the photos. i'm sure if you put an anonymous tour swing out there for you people to "critique", you'd be saying this and that for days to come. there's no perfect swing.
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And yet this is exactly why this thread was begun by the original poster(Redgoat), to solicit forum members input. :)
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I didn't find anything wrong with the swing, so that shows my lack of knowledge of swings in general. Beginner's luck for me. I am assuming the others who have commented have had either lessons from qualified pros, and have years of experience working on their swing.
 
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Mathew

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quote:Originally posted by densikat

Mathew: You feel a persons swing is the major factor in getting on tour? I disagree, I think the difference between a scratch marker and tour player swing wise is often not that different. Tour players tend to have much better short games and are great putters.
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Well put it this way - your swing I classify as anything from a pitch to a drive, it basically is 50%+ of your game so yes I think it is important.

People go on about missing a 3ft putt is worth the same as a 300 yard drive but really if you put that 300 yard drive in the woods then your going to struggle to save the situation - meaning a good chance of a shot dropped.... so its the same thing. You hit an iron into the water... its bad...

Even lobs and bunker shots are really very dependant on your full swing even though these shots require certain adjustments.....

I think short game should be complemented - you don't win tournaments or make cuts with a bad long game and an excellent short game... look at seve now.... but people with the other way round stand a better chance of not looking like a plonker in the scoreboards....

Ideally your long game should not put pressure on your short game otherwise you will always be struggling... An ideal professional would be in the middle of the bunch when his short game isn't great and tearing apart the course when it is....
 
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Powerdraw

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quote:Originally posted by Yankeedoodle

this is funny! swing tips from a bunch of guys who can't swing 1/10000th as well as the guy in the photos. i'm sure if you put an anonymous tour swing out there for you people to "critique", you'd be saying this and that for days to come. there's no perfect swing.
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thats right YD...you are correct....and it would be a good thing to do and critic their swings but they dont need the analysis, they are already good and have already found their repeatable compensations...

most or all top players come in steep but handle it awhole lot better than us hackers and they hit a gazillion balls to make it stick and repeatable...perfect swing? i'm baffled...just because someone plays 70-80-100 doesnt mean they know absolutely nothing bout the mechanics and cant help someone out...if no one says anything cause all these swings are perfect in your noodle, then wouldnt this be boring...
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quote:Originally posted by Yankeedoodle

"this is funny!"

Perhaps it is you that is funny?


"swing tips from a bunch of guys who can't swing 1/10000th as well as the guy in the photos."

Do you have a crystal ball that works?

"i'm sure if you put an anonymous tour swing out there for you people to "critique", you'd be saying this and that for days to come."

"there's no perfect swing."

Would be nice if we all had perfect swings but I agree, are none, however using Tom Leman as an example, w/ the right compensations, we can approach the/our perfect swing individually.
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quote:Originally posted by Yankeedoodle

this is funny! swing tips from a bunch of guys who can't swing 1/10000th as well as the guy in the photos. i'm sure if you put an anonymous tour swing out there for you people to "critique", you'd be saying this and that for days to come. there's no perfect swing.
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I'm sure Hubbie Brown, Phil Jackson, Bobby Knight etc can play right with the kids they are teaching also...........
NOT-----but they do know what is right/wrong on the bball court
 
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Redgoat - How did you get your student to shallow out his downswing so nicely (down the line view)? I wish my swing looked like the newer pictures.
 
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mb6606

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Much improved swing good work by both of you!!!
Looks great in frame #5. He is now approaching from the inside
Perhaps we will see him on TV one day.
 
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EdZ

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Very solid swing.

Looks like he needs to do some footwork/ankle drills and feel more of the motion through the feet. Upper body/arm/club motion is quite solid.

Slightly wider stance
move the ball position up a small amount (get that lead shoulder behind the ball at the top)
Work on step through drills

Can this guy dance? if not, tell him to work on it

Was it Snead who told the president to 'get your ass into it sir'?

that applies here too
 
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hue

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quote:Originally posted by Redgoat

I must say that I agree with many of your posts.

I particularly agreed with the comments regarding the steepness of the downswing. Ragman, I agree that he must slide his hips laterally to give the club time to get shallow enough. This is death with the driver.



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Brady: I have had my camcorder stolen by a couple of kids when filming my swing and picking up my balls. I have a strong hunch that I may well be too steep in my downswing . How did you get him going from this

http://redgoat.smugmug.com/gallery/104365/1/3686586

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http://redgoat.smugmug.com/gallery/104365/1/3743827 ?

When you were working on the extremes here


http://redgoat.smugmug.com/gallery/104365/1/3743829

What were you getting him to do ? This info will be of great help to me as I have now got a pull shot that turnes up quite a lot that makes me think I am coming in steep and over it. You have done a good work him. Thanks.
 
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EdZ

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Looks to me like he has the shoulders turning on less flat a plane (slightly, more 'under the chin'), which helped get the arms and body to work together more and not get the arms lifting and disconnecting from the turn.

Headcover under the lead arm might help you out Hue (for 1/2 to 3/4 hip to hip punch shots, use your 160 club, hit it 100)

You need a 'touch' more 'around', not much - but that drill will help you get there

get those shoulders under the chin back and through and 'let' the arms follow - they will be slightly flatter relative to your shoulder plane, but closer to the same club/ball plane that you are on now - gets the body in a better position to come from the inside, to square, to inside

let me know how this goes
 
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