Is it possible to play decent golf with an early release

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Brian Manzella

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Actually, I know a lot.

Most of the time, all the poor player needs is a BETTER left hand grip and the correct movement of the left arm with some gamma.

Easy.

Of course, you've never seen me teach. Pity.
 
Actually, I know a lot.

Most of the time, all the poor player needs is a BETTER left hand grip and the correct movement of the left arm with some gamma.

Easy.

Of course, you've never seen me teach. Pity.

Yes, Brian certainly knows 1,000 times more about the golf swing than I do. No question about it.

I'm just an amateur citing a case study. "A guy I know tried this and it seemed to work well."

But yeah, that is just one particular case. As Brian has pointed out numerous times, solutions often need to be customized. What works for you might not work for me.
 

Brian Manzella

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If you don't know how to turn a slicer you flipps trying to sqaure the club up, into a NON-SLICER....go ahead and give 'em a 58° strong grip.

But I'll teach 'em up with whatever grip work best for them.
 
Actually, I know a lot.

Most of the time, all the poor player needs is a BETTER left hand grip and the correct movement of the left arm with some gamma.

Easy.

Of course, you've never seen me teach. Pity.

What would be the correct left arm movement with some gamma?
 
Yes you can play well with an early release if...you keep your weight forward on the takeaway and more forward on the downswing.
 
Well, for one, there is WAY WAY more supination than most folks think.

I used to get an arched left wrist in the follow through. I hit a lot of hooks. Now I get a spiderman position. Now I hit more block slices than ever before. Do you think supination and arching can be separated?
 
Well, for one, there is WAY WAY more supination than most folks think.

The Pro's look like they have the left wrist in flexion at impact and then go into supination in the follow thru. I believe when Martin Hall was teaching Morgan Pressel he called this supination "catching rain drops" with the left palm.

I think I'm a very right arm dominant player. It feels powerful, but the right hand wants to release too early and I lose any left wrist flexion I might have.

Friday I tried to let the left arm lead the parade and it felt I had some flexion (arch) coming into impact. Ball first contact was good.

My misses were to the right instead of my normal miss which is a pull.

I would guess some supination with the left wrist would help with the misses to the right.

I don't feel any conscious manipulation thru impact. Supinating the left arm thru impact will have to be a conscious effort.
 
Yes you can play well with an early release if...you keep your weight forward on the takeaway and more forward on the downswing.

I know Matt Kuchar pivots around his left leg although he has no problem with an early release.

I feel as though I pivot into my right hip. I could try a left leg pivot.

My divots are more towards the toe, so a left sided pivot could cause me to be even more steep.

I know Kuchar uses a steep shoulder turn with a flat backswing to counter the steepness from his left leg pivot.
 
The Pro's look like they have the left wrist in flexion at impact and then go into supination in the follow thru. I believe when Martin Hall was teaching Morgan Pressel he called this supination "catching rain drops" with the left palm.

I think I'm a very right arm dominant player. It feels powerful, but the right hand wants to release too early and I lose any left wrist flexion I might have.

Friday I tried to let the left arm lead the parade and it felt I had some flexion (arch) coming into impact. Ball first contact was good.

My misses were to the right instead of my normal miss which is a pull.

I would guess some supination with the left wrist would help with the misses to the right.

I don't feel any conscious manipulation thru impact. Supinating the left arm thru impact will have to be a conscious effort.

Perhaps the feel of leading with the left arm gave you more tangential force in the transition
 

Brian Manzella

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Yes you can play well with an early release if...you keep your weight forward on the takeaway and more forward on the downswing.

I disagree.

I know some really good players with a big shift back and a "sweep" release.

The Pro's look like they have the left wrist in flexion at impact and then go into supination in the follow thru. I believe when Martin Hall was teaching Morgan Pressel he called this supination "catching rain drops" with the left palm.

That's is a NEVER SLICE AGAIN 2 type move that even in that video, I say you should probably back off at some point.

I think I'm a very right arm dominant player. It feels powerful, but the right hand wants to release too early and I lose any left wrist flexion I might have.


I don't feel any conscious manipulation thru impact. Supinating the left arm thru impact will have to be a conscious effort.

No.

I know Matt Kuchar pivots around his left leg although he has no problem with an early release.

Everyone is shifting WEIGHT AND PRESSURE.


Perhaps the feel of leading with the left arm gave you more tangential force in the transition

Good deduction.
 
Originally Posted by DCgolf
Yes you can play well with an early release if...you keep your weight forward on the takeaway and more forward on the downswing.
I disagree.

I know some really good players with a big shift back and a "sweep" release.

By coming over it? I can't see how adding two bottom of the arcs back works very well. There needs to be an offsetting forward in it.
 

Brian Manzella

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Originally Posted by DCgolf
Yes you can play well with an early release if...you keep your weight forward on the takeaway and more forward on the downswing.
I disagree.

I know some really good players with a big shift back and a "sweep" release.

By coming over it? I can't see how adding two bottom of the arcs back works very well. There needs to be an offsetting forward in it.

You are oversimplifying.

Not problem doing it.
 
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